Ruger No 1 9.3X74R

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Scearcy posted this 01 September 2015

I am looking for input on cast loads for the 9.3X74.  Most of the loading data I have been able to find is for jacketed bullets and larger game. I need a whitetail deer load in the 1800+ fps range.  Does anyone have experience using 5744 in this cartridge.  I am currently trying N135 but I am uncomfortable with the lack of data.

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Ed Harris posted this 21 August 2017

#375449 is Lyman's standard 270-grain FNGC bullet for the .375 H&H.  The several guys I know who routinely use the Bullseye load do not use the GC, but simply cast in wheelweights, tumble in Lee Liquid Alox and size to fit the rifle throat, usually .377-.378".

It looks very much like the Accurate 38-265L.

For your 9.3 I would cast your chamber and see which bullet has the best throat fit.  If your rifle is long throated, I would learn more towards something like the 37-275C.

 

73 de KE4SKY In Home Mix We Trust From the Home of Ed's Red in "Almost Heaven" West Virginia

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Scearcy posted this 20 August 2017

Accurate molds:

37-196 BG

37-250 B

37-260 D

I am leaning toward the 250 B

Jim

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Scearcy posted this 20 August 2017

Good morning Ken

I tried sizing down 375 bullets when I first got my first 9.3. I had best luck with a spitzer made out of a reasonably soft alloy. I tried sizing a blunter bullet made out of normal commercial  alloy and it did not work well. The blunt bullet was .378-.379 as I recall and they just required too much sizing. 

I appreciate your offer but I may just take this opportunity to get a new mold.

Jim

 

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Scearcy posted this 20 August 2017

Ed,

I am not familiar with that bullet. Is it plain base. I like your Bullseye load for plain base with my 3006. No leading - very clean.

Jim

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Ken Campbell Iowa posted this 20 August 2017

mr scearcy ..if you are resizing 375 casting i have an rcbs 250 2 cav you can play with .... i took my 375 apart so won't need that mold for awhile .

ken

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Ed Harris posted this 20 August 2017

The case capacity of the 9.3x74R is really close to the .375 H&H.  

In the .375 a great many people have had good success using 260-275 grain cast bullets similar to #375449 with 12-13 grains of Bullseye, no filler.  I would think a similar load in the 9.3 would give you the mild load you seek. 

73 de KE4SKY In Home Mix We Trust From the Home of Ed's Red in "Almost Heaven" West Virginia

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Scearcy posted this 20 August 2017

400jeff

Accurate has a number of 9.3 molds catalogued I believe. I'll look at the gas check shank sizes after coffee. 

Has anyone actually used black powder in this cartridge? I have several pounds of fake stuff some of which is cartridge grade. It would be nice to use it for something other than lawn fertilizer.

Jim

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Brodie posted this 20 August 2017

400jeffery;

Have you tried Gator checks (available from NOE).  They seem to work fine on my 280gr. bullets for my 9.3x 57mm.

I think Accurate Moulds carries a 330 or 350 grain bullet.  A 500 gr. would be way too long. I doubt that you could use anything much heavier than what is available for the .375 h&h.  Brodie

B.E.Brickey

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400jeffery posted this 19 August 2017

I have looked for the old Lyman mould 366408, but I now think if the resized 375 works, it is close enough to that old lyman mould I will use it instead. I might look over some designs and have a mould for a 400 grain cast made up for this. It would be for low pressure, black powder shooting and a velocity in the 1400 fps area with a gas check just in case I want to crank it up. I am going to check to see how heavy a load I can push with this caliber, would love to push a 500 grainer, but that may not be possible.

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Scearcy posted this 19 August 2017

It is inconvenient but can you get by using a fiber wad and some filler. I used to do that with my 45-70. I was using the rifle to hunt mule deer and wanted an "express" load for long range. Live and learn but actually the wad and filler worked just fine.

Jim

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400jeffery posted this 19 August 2017

So far I have not been so lucky on finding the correct gas check size. May have to either do some custom, which means I may have to get a custom maker or purchase some custom made to fit my base. I mean come on.........a gas check base of .33 who does this???????

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Scearcy posted this 18 August 2017

I tried sizing down some 375 bullets but the alloy was fairly hard and the results weren't great.

My notes reminded me that I used 35 cal gas checks on the 9.3 bullets. They seem to be Ok. I did not anneal them.

I may just go plain base this year.A while back I acquired a Lyman mold for a 245 gr PB bullet. It shouldn't be too difficult to develop a close cover load for bullet proof deer.

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400jeffery posted this 18 August 2017

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400jeffery posted this 18 August 2017

I had the same need to have a cast for my 9.3 too. Had a mould blank sent to NEI back in 2012, but had issues with the end product being undersize by way to much, sent it back and was fixed in about two months, I still have the issue with finding a gas check that will fit the cast boolit.  So, I have decided to try using one of my 264 grain cast that I have for my Win 375 with gas check and have run it through a new sizing die of .369 dia and see how it will work in my Ruger No.1  Here is a before and after image. Resized on the left, original 375 cast on the right.

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Scearcy posted this 11 August 2017

Just trying to not kill myself on the back end laughing. I also find myself subconsciously reacting  to the recent (jacketed) trend to develop and recommend huge cartridges burning powder by the cup full. The last deer I shot that was bullet proof was when I was 15 years old. Many of us used hand me down 44-40s in those days. The neighbor kid on the next farm had an old 45-90 that belonged to his grandpa in the railroading days. My Gawd as we would say, that thing was suitable for "Buffalo" not whitetails.

Sorry for waxing nostalgic. My old dog has cancer and our days are numbered. I find myself looking backward frequently right now.

Jim

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GP Idaho posted this 11 August 2017

What the heck Jim. Are you trying to kill the poor deer just a little bit?  lol Gp

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Scearcy posted this 10 August 2017

Yes he would. A 210 gr bullet at 1800 fps won't exactly be a light load. That is very close to the 35 Remington. I mostly can't leave well enough alone when I get a new mold.

Jim

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M3 Mitch posted this 10 August 2017

I think you may have trouble finding a load as mild as you want, but, the load you have with the 260 grain bullet IMHO ought to be just fine for deer, even though it's clearly "more than enough".

Think of it this way - Elmer Keith would heartily approve!

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Scearcy posted this 10 August 2017

Here it is as not everyone has seen this round.

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Scearcy posted this 10 August 2017

Hi all,

It feels like fall today and my thoughts turned to deer hunting. I have yet to take a deer with my Ruger No 1 so this year is the year. I am building a deer shack this summer so I can spend more time in the woods. There will be plenty of time for loafing in the heavy cover where ranges are short. There is a picture of my current load attached - mostly for our amusement. It has a 260 gr bullet with 42 gr of N135. My intent is to go with a lighter load. The new NOE mold I have is for a 210 gr gas check bullet. It should work great. Perhaps either 5744 or 4759 will work well with the light bullet.

Just thinkin out loud.

Jim

Picture will follow. I need to resize it first.

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