Hunting feral hogs on Sunday.

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PredFan posted this 27 February 2016

I'm using my Henry Rifle in 357, they wont be cast bullets, however, I'm also carrying my 44 mag revolver and if I can get a change to shoot a pig with that, I'll take it. It has cast bullets.

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onondaga posted this 27 February 2016

http://castbulletassoc.org/view_user.php?id=9663>PredFan

Have a good hunt!

I truly believe a heavy cast tumble lube SWC with a bevel base or a gas check cast in #2 alloy will outperform jacketed bullets on pigs with your 357 Mag Henri.

The lead in jacketed bullets is very soft and splatters, #2 alloy with a pig hunting load will double in caliber on impact, have zero weight loss and pass through a pig with a big hole  at 50 yards.

The Lee TL-358-158-SWC and C358-158-SWC, either in #2 alloy as hot as will hold 2 MOA accuracy at 50 yards will rock big pigs with your Henri much better than jacketed anything bullets in .357 Mag.

Accurate Molds also has some custom heavier flat nose molds for 357 Mag rifle that are spectacular. You might consider a big tumble lube bevel base super flat nose after you do a chamber casting of your Henri.

Gary

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Pigslayer posted this 27 February 2016

Hit those hogs behind the front shoulder & low . . . through the lungs. Love hunting hogs!!

If someone else had of done to me what I did to myself . . . I'd have killed him. Humility is an asset. Heh - heh.

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PredFan posted this 27 February 2016

onondaga wrote: http://castbulletassoc.org/view_user.php?id=9663>PredFan

Have a good hunt!

I truly believe a heavy cast tumble lube SWC with a bevel base or a gas check cast in #2 alloy will outperform jacketed bullets on pigs with your 357 Mag Henri.

The lead in jacketed bullets is very soft and splatters, #2 alloy with a pig hunting load will double in caliber on impact, have zero weight loss and pass through a pig with a big hole  at 50 yards.

The Lee TL-358-158-SWC and C358-158-SWC, either in #2 alloy as hot as will hold 2 MOA accuracy at 50 yards will rock big pigs with your Henri much better than jacketed anything bullets in .357 Mag.

Accurate Molds also has some custom heavier flat nose molds for 357 Mag rifle that are spectacular. You might consider a big tumble lube bevel base super flat nose after you do a chamber casting of your Henri.

GaryI am new enough to casting bullets to not know how to cast a SWC.....yet.

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PredFan posted this 27 February 2016

I am new enough to casting bullets to not know how to cast a SWC.....yet.

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tturner53 posted this 27 February 2016

I want to see pictures of dead pigs. Where's Giorgio? He's a pig killer for sure.

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onondaga posted this 27 February 2016

PredFan wrote: I am new enough to casting bullets to not know how to cast a SWC.....yet. It won't take much experience. Actually, very long spire bullets and Hollow base or hollow point bullets are the hardest to cast well. Semi-Wad Cutters in .357 are run of the mill basic. Casting with my 20 cavity “O” Buckshot Sharp Shooter USA mold was a nightmare till I carefully followed the maker's video directions and learned what it likes,  now it is wonderful.

Gary

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PredFan posted this 28 February 2016

I got tired of waiting for the big tusker to come along, so I pulled the trigger on an 80 pounder. + or - a few.

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onondaga posted this 28 February 2016

http://www.castbulletassoc.org/view_user.php?id=9663>PredFan

Decent pig! A local note from my area in Western New York. "tusker" is a highly inflamed racial epithet in my area. The Tuscarora Nation of Native Americans is only a few miles from where I live. They go nuts when they hear that word and their Grandmother Club will come after you with LaCross sticks, pull your ears, and yell at you in their Native language.

SkurÅ«'rÄ›n' is what they yell, it is their tribe name in their own language and literally translates to “Hemp Gatherers". They are a very religious traditional people closely connected to nature and prefer isolation. They are wonderful archers and welcomed me in their archery club as a boy.

Gary

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PredFan posted this 28 February 2016

Lol, good thing I'm a long ways away! I'm still sitting in the tree stand until it gets dark. Maybe one will come along.

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PredFan posted this 29 February 2016

Well, big papa DID come along, but not to me, to my buddy. He bagged this 135 pound boar.

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tturner53 posted this 29 February 2016

Nice. Thanks for sharing the good times.

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PredFan posted this 02 March 2016

So I have about 100 pounds if pork in my freezer.

I'll be making sausage from now till who knows when.

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muley posted this 03 March 2016

good luck, those “little” 80 pounders taste better than “big daddy", keep the pictures coming.

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tturner53 posted this 03 March 2016

I killed about 10 wild boar over here on the coast many years ago, with ONE SHOT! True stuff. It was a pregnant sow, unknown to me, of course. Point blank, 45-70 cast 405 gr. in the top of head, out the foot and gone. The little piglets were about due. A shame, here, as we don't have the problems of too many pigs like some places.

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PredFan posted this 04 March 2016

I made some breakfast sausage, it is excellent.

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PredFan posted this 04 March 2016

I would LOVE to be able to shoot a hog with a bullet I cast. I have been casting all of the bullets for my 44 mag but I'm worried about getting lead in the pork.

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onondaga posted this 04 March 2016

http://www.castbulletassoc.org/view_user.php?id=9663>PredFan

Alloy selection makes all the difference if you will get lead in your meat or not.

Fortunately, Lyman figured out the answer over 100 years ago when they developed Lyman #2 Alloy. It retains 100% bullet weight when harvesting game animals and doubles in caliber on impact with game animals when shooting hunting level loads. Pass through shots with a double caliber hole on deer with 100% weight retention and expansion to double caliber is normal with deer hunting loads striking with 1,000 foot pounds impact. This is easy to achieve with hunting rifles and easy to figure what your needs really are. The particular alloy is optimized for strength at hunting load levels with 5% Antimony and it is optimized for malleability that holds it together preventing fragmentation with 5% Tin.

Alloys with more or less percentages of Tin and Antimony sacrifice in splatter,  fragmentation and poor or wasted fragmentation energy. That is 100 year old, old news. 

It is well worth it for me to buy commercial Certified Lyman #2 Alloy for my hunting bullets. I use a recreation alloy that shoots to the same POI and has equal hardness but lower TIN for economy. I alloy Range Scrap and Linotype at 1:1 and the result nearly duplicates Certified Hardball Alloy that is the same BHN as Lyman #2. So my recreational and practice bullets are pretty cheap. 5 pounds of Certified #2 Alloy makes a lot of the best hunting bullets. There is 7,000 grains to a pound and you can figure your bullets per pound easily with your bullet weight. I see it as economical to get just the right alloy.

Pistol hunting bullets can be softer due to closer ranges being the factor and many pistol loads are unable to provide the energy needed for #2 to do it's magic on meat. #2 is optimized for rifles.

I hunt with 30,45 and 50 caliber center-fire rifles and cast bullets but started with a 45 Cal. Flintlock that I cast balls for at age 7.

I have taken Deer, Bear, Wolf, Wild Boar, Caribou and Moose with Cast Bullets and prefer them to any other bullet for hunting game.  I always hunt with a cast load tailored to the job at my expected maximum shot distance. I have a great small game load too. My Remington Spartan single shot 7.62X39 shoots a 90 gr. SWC at 1160 fps and easily head-shots Squirrels at 50 Yards as the scoped rifle routinely groups just under 1/2” at 50 yards with the Squirrel load.

I get my Certified #2 from RotoMetals: http://www.rotometals.com/Bullet-Casting-Alloys-s/5.htm>http://www.rotometals.com/Bullet-Casting-Alloys-s/5.htm orders over $99 receive free shipping. That is a deal to me!

Gary

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rodwha posted this 04 March 2016

onondaga wrote: http://castbulletassoc.org/view_user.php?id=9663>PredFan

Have a good hunt!

I truly believe a heavy cast tumble lube SWC with a bevel base or a gas check cast in #2 alloy will outperform jacketed bullets on pigs with your 357 Mag Henri.

The lead in jacketed bullets is very soft and splatters, #2 alloy with a pig hunting load will double in caliber on impact, have zero weight loss and pass through a pig with a big hole  at 50 yards.

The Lee TL-358-158-SWC and C358-158-SWC, either in #2 alloy as hot as will hold 2 MOA accuracy at 50 yards will rock big pigs with your Henri much better than jacketed anything bullets in .357 Mag.

Accurate Molds also has some custom heavier flat nose molds for 357 Mag rifle that are spectacular. You might consider a big tumble lube bevel base super flat nose after you do a chamber casting of your Henri.

Gary You lambasted a member for not having 1000 ft/lbs for ethical hunting but feel a .357 Mag has plenty at 50 yds?

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onondaga posted this 04 March 2016

http://www.castbulletassoc.org/view_user.php?id=6596>rodwha

It is hunting guide associations and Lyman's humane harvest research I relate to hunters looking for Deer hunting load levels or hunters with load levels lower than Lyman recommends. There is a lot of hunters that couldn't care less. I don't support their opinion.

The 357 Mag rifle can certainly be loaded to 50 yard cast bullet humane Deer harvesting level. an example: http://reloadersnest.com/unverified_detail.asp?CaliberID=189&ID=3365>http://reloadersnest.com/unverifieddetail.asp?CaliberID=189&ID=3365 This 357 Mag rifle load has 1,006 foot pounds at 70 yards.

There are many other suitable loads also, it is easy to run the numbers and check yourself if your load fits humane harvesting level recommended by guide associations and Lyman. It is a matter of ethics to me. You can argue from a point of poor ethics all you want. I won't agree or support your unethical and unsportsmanlike stance and lack of concern for humane harvest.

I also recommended heavier Accurate Mold bullets to http://castbulletassoc.org/view_user.php?id=9663>PredFan for the purpose of ethical harvest load level in the very post you copy and criticize. You didn't read it well, I believe http://castbulletassoc.org/view_user.php?id=9663>PredFan read and understood my recommendation.

You can run this free calculator to verify your load level at any range here: http://handloads.com/calc/index.html>http://handloads.com/calc/index.html It is not difficult or challenging at all to tailor a 357 Mag rifle load for humane harvest of Deer at 50 yards, unless you just couldn't care less.

Gary

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rodwha posted this 04 March 2016

onondaga wrote: http://www.castbulletassoc.org/view_user.php?id=6596>rodwha

It is hunting guide associations and Lyman's humane harvest research I relate to hunters looking for Deer hunting load levels or hunters with load levels lower than Lyman recommends. There is a lot of hunters that couldn't care less. I don't support their opinion.

The 357 Mag rifle can certainly be loaded to 50 yard cast bullet humane Deer harvesting level. an example: http://reloadersnest.com/unverified_detail.asp?CaliberID=189&ID=3365>http://reloadersnest.com/unverifieddetail.asp?CaliberID=189&ID=3365 This 357 Mag rifle load has 1,006 foot pounds at 70 yards.

There are many other suitable loads also, it is easy to run the numbers and check yourself if your load fits humane harvesting level recommended by guide associations and Lyman. It is a matter of ethics to me. You can argue from a point of poor ethics all you want. I won't agree or support your unethical and unsportsmanlike stance and lack of concern for humane harvest.

I also recommended heavier Accurate Mold bullets to http://castbulletassoc.org/view_user.php?id=9663>PredFan for the purpose of ethical harvest load level in the very post you copy and criticize. You didn't read it well, I believe http://castbulletassoc.org/view_user.php?id=9663>PredFan read and understood my recommendation.

You can run this free calculator to verify your load level at any range here: http://handloads.com/calc/index.html>http://handloads.com/calc/index.html It is not difficult or challenging at all to tailor a 357 Mag rifle load for humane harvest of Deer at 50 yards, unless you just couldn't care less.

Gary

 I'm curious what unethical and unsportsmanlike stance you are claiming I am coming from as I've not made any statement. I don't own a .357 mag rifle so I checked Hornady's sight that has a rifle load using the LeveRevition ammo which runs higher than average velocities and it showed just a bit over 1000 ft/lbs at the muzzle and a bit over 600 ft/lbs at the muzzle from a handgun. Your stance on 1000 ft/lbs doesn't hold water. The standard .357 mag handgun ethically takes deer as has the .45 Colt as well as the old black powder weapons. You can holler about it all you want because a company out to make money claims so. But history shows it's a false statement.

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PredFan posted this 04 March 2016

Onondaga Thanks! I'll look into that.

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PredFan posted this 04 March 2016

rodwha wrote: onondaga wrote: http://www.castbulletassoc.org/view_user.php?id=6596>rodwha

It is hunting guide associations and Lyman's humane harvest research I relate to hunters looking for Deer hunting load levels or hunters with load levels lower than Lyman recommends. There is a lot of hunters that couldn't care less. I don't support their opinion.

The 357 Mag rifle can certainly be loaded to 50 yard cast bullet humane Deer harvesting level. an example: http://reloadersnest.com/unverified_detail.asp?CaliberID=189&ID=3365>http://reloadersnest.com/unverifieddetail.asp?CaliberID=189&ID=3365 This 357 Mag rifle load has 1,006 foot pounds at 70 yards.

There are many other suitable loads also, it is easy to run the numbers and check yourself if your load fits humane harvesting level recommended by guide associations and Lyman. It is a matter of ethics to me. You can argue from a point of poor ethics all you want. I won't agree or support your unethical and unsportsmanlike stance and lack of concern for humane harvest.

I also recommended heavier Accurate Mold bullets to http://castbulletassoc.org/view_user.php?id=9663>PredFan for the purpose of ethical harvest load level in the very post you copy and criticize. You didn't read it well, I believe http://castbulletassoc.org/view_user.php?id=9663>PredFan read and understood my recommendation.

You can run this free calculator to verify your load level at any range here: http://handloads.com/calc/index.html>http://handloads.com/calc/index.html It is not difficult or challenging at all to tailor a 357 Mag rifle load for humane harvest of Deer at 50 yards, unless you just couldn't care less.

Gary

 I'm curious what unethical and unsportsmanlike stance you are claiming I am coming from as I've not made any statement. I don't own a .357 mag rifle so I checked Hornady's sight that has a rifle load using the LeveRevition ammo which runs higher than average velocities and it showed just a bit over 1000 ft/lbs at the muzzle and a bit over 600 ft/lbs at the muzzle from a handgun. Your stance on 1000 ft/lbs doesn't hold water. The standard .357 mag handgun ethically takes deer as has the .45 Colt as well as the old black powder weapons. You can holler about it all you want because a company out to make money claims so. But history shows it's a false statement.I think you are confused. He doesn't have the Henry rifle in 357, I do. Also I did not get the impression that he lambasted me in any way.

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rodwha posted this 04 March 2016

He lambasted a fellow asking about his 30-30 load in the next thread. All he claimed was that your bullet through a rifle was plenty for hogs without a statement of loading it near max to reach his 1000 ft/lb magic number when no commercial load other than Buffalo Bore can attain. as that is atypical you'd think he'd have made the point to since he thinks the magic fizzles under that because a company who sells reloading gear told him so despite the fact history shows otherwise. Standard commercial loads through a handgun in .357 mag work just fine as they did with the .45 Colt from the late 1800's despite not coming close to this ridiculous magic number. Nor did the cap and ball or muzzleloaders shooting a ball. 

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onondaga posted this 04 March 2016

 

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rodwha posted this 04 March 2016

History is not on your side my friend. Merely look at the .44-40, second only to the .30-30. But, but, but it only has less than 700 ft/lbs at the muzzle... Again, you can buy the magic number theory if you want to as it's a free country and all, but to say you are unethical if you don't meet a magic number is preposterous and untrue, and just as I mentioned in the other thread there is far too much history to say your magic number theory doesn't hold water for a second. As I also stated in the other thread you I'd like to see you over at a traditional muzzleloader forum with your theory and see what evidence they have. I was like you believing I needed a big bullet with lots of energy. But that's a modern myth.  You do realize politicians are usually not hunters and use other people's advice, right? Funny how the RB worked well then as it does now. But then they just don't sell well like the new wizbang stuff these days now does it? I find it funny that with modern cartridges that boast well over your magic number often run at least some distance with a well placed vital shot. Maybe it's not so magical after all...

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onondaga posted this 04 March 2016

http://www.castbulletassoc.org/view_user.php?id=6596>rodwha

Your Texas Deer are puny and easy to kill compared to my Western New York Deer. My grandsons puny 6 point Buck this season dressed at 189 pounds. My best puny 4 pointer a few years ago dressed at 204 pounds. I have harvested mature Deer much larger. Texans try to grow them bigger, they fail miserably at that too!

Insult hurling contests aren't very productive, but I can play that too. You don't put history into a relative perspective at all. Let me guess, is your screen name over on the castboolits forum “45nut"? You sound just like him....one of the 2 internet shooters I have challenged to a duel. They both chickened out. The other one is here and uses several screen names because he is a hit and run coward .

You can click “IGNORE” on people you don't like and never have to read them again. You are welcome to click me gone. I just did it to you until you meaningfully apologize. Bye By.

Gary

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rodwha posted this 04 March 2016

This has nothing to do with whose deer it is. It's about a magic number that, by your account, can be ignored if it's a patched ball, but once you stretch it into a cylindrical shape it suddenly need no less than 3 times the energy to work well.  It's funny how modern handgun hunters of hogs state a hard cast wide meplat bullet is necessary in an ultra magnum platform, yet the .45 Colt can just as easily give a complete passthrough. A wide hole is a wide hole. Once it has passed through it becomes a waste.

You are the only one who has hurled insults. I've merely claimed the magic number is a myth made by modern groups selling the masses. About the only thing I could apologize for is not believing the myth. Oh, and a ball often doesn't deform beyond 50-75 yds.  I have an account there and several other gun forums but my name never changes. Out of curiosity I looked at Federal loadings and see a 438 grn 12 ga slug has 805 ft/lbs at 100 yds, and their .223 Rem 62 grn Fusion bullet has 1001 ft/lbs at the same distance. I'm guessing you'll claim the .22 cal bullet is more ethical? You obviously don't know much about Texas if you believe all the deer are small. The ones I typically hunt are no more than 125-150 lbs due to protein feeding on the neighboring ranch. But you'd be mistaken if you believe they all are. And that's not even considering the mule deer or exotics we have.

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Hamish posted this 04 March 2016

In the immortal words of Bugs Bunny,,,,,,,"What a maroon".

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Westhoff posted this 05 March 2016

Predfan; You mentioned you were “worried about getting lead in the pork"? When I was growing up, my cousin and I and his whole family ate a lot of quail, pheasant and cottontail rabbits that had lots of lead shot in them. When we'd find some, we'd spit it out, if we didn't notice it in time we'd swallow it.

Also, it seems to me this country was settled and the west was won by a whole bunch of people who killed all of their meat with lead bullets or shot. Maybe they all died an early death.....but I've managed to make 88 and I'm still kicking. (Maybe not quite as hard as I did i my 30's.) Maybe lead's not quite so bad after all?

Wes

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Brodie posted this 05 March 2016

Predfan, The horror stories of lead spreading throughout a game carcass come from some rather incorrect idiots who X-rayed ground game meat.  When a white (opaque ) spot showed up on the X-ray film they erroneously  call it LEAD CONTAMINATION.  Have you ever found a chunk of bone in a hamburger?  I have.  Bone is also opaque to X-Ray.  If you are really worried about lead in your meat shoot them through the lungs.  Don't use lino type for a hunting bullet alloy (it can shatter when striking bone) and use a butcher or processor who cleans his grinder regularly.  Also don't try to get the last scrap of meat from around the bullet wound. Lead is highly over rated as a toxic contaminant.  There used to be more lead in gasoline than on the range.  All heavy metals are toxic but they require a build up over time.  Don't eat old lead paint chips.

If all the claims of lead toxicity were true many of us would have died from carrying lead sinkers and split shot in our mouths a long time ago. Brodie

B.E.Brickey

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giorgio the slim one posted this 05 March 2016

Thia is a small ,born in the spring ,  a red  female  that i got with a lucky shot  at 100 feet .She was running  uphill and I broke  both knee joints with  my 45/70 Marlin shooting LBT s 405  bullet .  We followed the tracks with a Beagle and finished her with a head shot . When the  italian season  opens the piglets have lost the striped  fur , and they are great roasts .  

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Brodie posted this 06 March 2016

Sadly or luckily we don't have feral pigs in Arizona at least not enough to talk about. I really miss hunting them and miss eating them even more. So lean you had to add oil to the pan or the sausage would stick and the roasts and chops tasted like a cross between lamb and veal. Brodie

B.E.Brickey

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Pigslayer posted this 06 March 2016

rodwha wrote: This has nothing to do with whose deer it is. It's about a magic number that, by your account, can be ignored if it's a patched ball, but once you stretch it into a cylindrical shape it suddenly need no less than 3 times the energy to work well.  It's funny how modern handgun hunters of hogs state a hard cast wide meplat bullet is necessary in an ultra magnum platform, yet the .45 Colt can just as easily give a complete passthrough. A wide hole is a wide hole. Once it has passed through it becomes a waste.

You are the only one who has hurled insults. I've merely claimed the magic number is a myth made by modern groups selling the masses. About the only thing I could apologize for is not believing the myth. Oh, and a ball often doesn't deform beyond 50-75 yds.  I have an account there and several other gun forums but my name never changes. Out of curiosity I looked at Federal loadings and see a 438 grn 12 ga slug has 805 ft/lbs at 100 yds, and their .223 Rem 62 grn Fusion bullet has 1001 ft/lbs at the same distance. I'm guessing you'll claim the .22 cal bullet is more ethical? You obviously don't know much about Texas if you believe all the deer are small. The ones I typically hunt are no more than 125-150 lbs due to protein feeding on the neighboring ranch. But you'd be mistaken if you believe they all are. And that's not even considering the mule deer or exotics we have. I second the ignore button.

If someone else had of done to me what I did to myself . . . I'd have killed him. Humility is an asset. Heh - heh.

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PredFan posted this 06 March 2016

Westhoff wrote: Predfan; You mentioned you were “worried about getting lead in the pork"? When I was growing up, my cousin and I and his whole family ate a lot of quail, pheasant and cottontail rabbits that had lots of lead shot in them. When we'd find some, we'd spit it out, if we didn't notice it in time we'd swallow it.

Also, it seems to me this country was settled and the west was won by a whole bunch of people who killed all of their meat with lead bullets or shot. Maybe they all died an early death.....but I've managed to make 88 and I'm still kicking. (Maybe not quite as hard as I did i my 30's.) Maybe lead's not quite so bad after all?

WesI understand Wes, but I am not willing to take the chance. Besides, someone has already told me how to use alloys and avoid the problem.

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PredFan posted this 06 March 2016

Old Coot wrote: Predfan, The horror stories of lead spreading throughout a game carcass come from some rather incorrect idiots who X-rayed ground game meat.  When a white (opaque ) spot showed up on the X-ray film they erroneously  call it LEAD CONTAMINATION.  Have you ever found a chunk of bone in a hamburger?  I have.  Bone is also opaque to X-Ray.  If you are really worried about lead in your meat shoot them through the lungs.  Don't use lino type for a hunting bullet alloy (it can shatter when striking bone) and use a butcher or processor who cleans his grinder regularly.  Also don't try to get the last scrap of meat from around the bullet wound. Lead is highly over rated as a toxic contaminant.  There used to be more lead in gasoline than on the range.  All heavy metals are toxic but they require a build up over time.  Don't eat old lead paint chips.

If all the claims of lead toxicity were true many of us would have died from carrying lead sinkers and split shot in our mouths a long time ago. Brodie Don't eat paint chips, got it!;)

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billglaze posted this 06 March 2016

I cannot even begin to count the times I walked around for hours and hours with a goodly amount of lead bb's under my tongue.  Of course, that was during WW 2, and we didn't have an Agency telling us how poisonous it was.  Remember the Red Lead that was used on each and every pipe joint?  On every new home, and repair that included plumbing work.  My brother chewed the paint off the entire top rail of his crib;  he still won't admit he survived childhood.  Of course, my brother is an only child....... Bill

In theory, there's no difference between theory and practice. In practice, there is. My fate is not entirely in Gods hands, if I have a weapon in mine.

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Brodie posted this 06 March 2016

While the actual toxicity of lead can not be disputed I have found it to be the most toxic when moving from several hundred to over a 1000 fps. The Pb++ ion seems to be the most deadly under those conditions. Brodie

B.E.Brickey

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tturner53 posted this 07 March 2016

Thanks Giorgio! More dead pig pictures, fellas. I've hunted them for 25 years, off and on, and only got two! The pigs here avoid public land. We have millions and millions of acres of public land. They like private property. The landowners are funny about their situation. Pay to play. The illusion of pigs on public land, however, is a thriving industry. Even the fish and game plays that siren song. My neighbor bought a “pig hunting packet” at a gun show ($25) detailing good places to go, including maps. I went thru the same deal a long time ago.

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PredFan posted this 12 March 2016

Biscuits and Florida wild boar gravy.

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rodwha posted this 12 March 2016

Very nice!

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Brodie posted this 13 March 2016

tturner53 wrote: Thanks Giorgio! More dead pig pictures, fellas. I've hunted them for 25 years, off and on, and only got two! The pigs here avoid public land. We have millions and millions of acres of public land. They like private property. The landowners are funny about their situation. Pay to play. The illusion of pigs on public land, however, is a thriving industry. Even the fish and game plays that siren song. My neighbor bought a “pig hunting packet” at a gun show ($25) detailing good places to go, including maps. I went thru the same deal a long time ago. The Pigs in California like private land because they grow barley, rice, truck veggies, sugar beets, grapes,etc. on it.  They will run 15 mi. one way every night to feed in a good field.  The pigs are on public land as well, but it is not easily accessible public land, or you might need a pack of hounds to get the pigs out.  

Please don't take this personal tturner53 because I certainly don't mean it that way, but have you seen what SOME FEW so called hunters will or have done to private land on occasion.  You bet they want $$$.  I would too. Brodie

B.E.Brickey

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Westhoff posted this 13 March 2016

Made my mouth water all over the keyboard!

Wes

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tlkeizer posted this 05 April 2016

Greetings Giorgio the slim one, Using a 405 grain bullet for your 45-70, are you using modern or black powder?  And, I am curious as to how much the bullet opened up.  I had hoped to get a caribou this past year with my 45-70 trapdoor using black powder, but am still hunting though now in my daydreams until the season opens up again this fall.  The biscuits and gravy looked mighty tempting, hope they ate as well as they looked.  As of now I am limited to caribou sausage (homemade) from a caribou half I was given. TK

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Dale53 posted this 05 April 2016

PredFan; Man, that plate of biscuits and sausage gravy looks GOOD!!!

That's really “putting meat on the table"!

Thanks for sharing that great picture!

Dale53

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