30 XCB, 2900 fps at 600 yards

Frank

This all is not your "point" but that's ok, we all understand.....

1. You don't need HV to shoot at 600 yards accurately and at long range, the wind is your most limiting factor.

I'm sorry Frank, I must have missed the part where you were elected, appointed, held a revolution or whatever that gave you the thought process that you could tell me what I "need" or don't "need".  Fact is; the wind is a limiting factor shooting any bullet at 600 yards.  You may be the exception though, can you enlighten us with your cast bullet 10 shot group results at 600 yards?

2. If you can not reduce wind drift with higher velocity, it serves no purpose.

You shouldn't  let your ire at me cloud your thinking; increasing the velocity of the XCB bullet over a lower velocity does reduce it's wind drift.

The only thing that you've accomplished is reducing trajectory, a good thing in hunting but, the bullet is a bit hard and would limit expansion, as well as shatter at close range, with that hardness.

The bullet has been tested at close range in wet pack.....it does not shatter.  The bullet has also been tested in wet pack at it's intended max range for hunting and it does expand because it retains sufficient velocity.  I base that on facts derived from actual testing Frank, not from gun rag or internet speculation. 

You brought up Schuetzen shooting and RPM in this thread, I was also responding to that.

No Frank, other posters brought up schuetzen bullets.

If you want to limit the scope of your thread, state that, in the beginning and stick to it.

May I ask where that rule is?  No, I ask you simply to try and stick to the topic.  You continually take any thread I respond on of on a tangent to prove some esoteric concept of yours.  As I stated earlier, go shoot your schuetzen bullet at 600 yards with 4 ten shot groups and come back with the results.  That would be "on topic".  Telling me I don't need to do what I did is simply argumentative.  I dare say a whole lot of members here shoot other than schuetzen rifles/bullets.....perhaps you think they don't need to shoot whatever else they want to?

Another thing that you state in this thread is that your rifle is not a target rifle. Can you tell us what features make it a none target rifle? Do you consider it a hunting rifle or varmint rifle?

No, the 30x60 XCB rifle is not a target rifle. It is a M98 action.  That's hardly considered a "target" action these days.  It has a sporter stock.  It has a Timney deluxe standard trigger with the pull set at 2.5 lbs.....a lot heavier than target or varmint rifle triggers or match triggers for that matter.  The 30x60 cartridge has none of the current design parameters of a target or benchrest cartridge. The barrel twist is not compatible with any long range match or VLD style bullets. 

I consider it a hunting rifle as part of the concept for the rifle was to extend cast bullet hunting capability past 200 yards to 300 or possibly 400 yards on game such as deer, antelope and coyote.  However, coyote are considered varmints but they are not the primary game for the rifle.  I have not, nor have I had, any intention of shooting any varmints such as squirrels or rock chuck with the cast bullet.  However the rifle is a 1/5 moa rifle with such bullets up through the 130 gr Speer HP at 3300 - 3400+ fps and could thus perform favorably in that regard.

So there you go Frank, you shoot your way and I'll shoot my way.  Last time I checked it's still a somewhat free country.  My invitation for you to come down and shoot a side by side 600 yard 10 shot group comparison with your Schuetzen against my 30x60 XCB is still open?

LMG

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