Groundhog Shoot - Expanded Caliber list

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Scearcy posted this 15 March 2017

Are you interested in a fun shoot with plain base bullets in your old favorite “Closet Queen"

This is Ken Campbell's idea (have you noticed he is an instigator) and I think it is a good idea. The Bunny match idea is a good one but our old 3006 rifles will be too heavy to make the weight limit.  No problem. Lets do our own event.  The rules would be pretty much like the Bunny match rules. Plain base bullet in fixed ammunition. Field positions including walking staff, cane, hand held shooting sticks, shooting sling but no bench rest or mechanical rests ala F Class. To start with we are thinking 4X scopes or iron sights. If we get enough entries, we can worry about separating the scopes from the irons later. We can use either Bunny targets or Ground Hog targets. I am leaning toward Ground Hogs just to avoid confusion with the Bunny postal matches. We can decide this later if their are enough people committed to participate. I don't see any need for a weight limit.  If you want to shoot your Garand, have at it.

I will collect the targets and publish the results in TFS.  If the participants would like, I will also distribute the results quickly via email.  It would be very interesting to collect rifle, bullet and load information just like the regular CBA matches. This info could be a very useful source. 

I am sure there are other details but I would like to not reinvent the wheel here. The Bunny matches are a good framework. This is envisioned as an opportunity to dig out your old Pre-64 Model 70 or that Springfield 03 in the  closet. If you have multiple 3006s I don't foresee a problem with multiple entries.

Who would like to play? If we have enough interest, we will figure out how to sign up.

 

Jim (and Ken)

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45 2.1 posted this 15 March 2017

I would prefer you using “30 caliber rifles". There are a lot of 30-30, 30 Carbine, 308, 7.62mm, 303 British, 300 Savage, 7.5x55 Swiss, 7.5 French, 7.62 Russian, 7.62x39 etc. rifles out there being used like this.

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gnoahhh posted this 15 March 2017

You dam betcha. Prefer '06 as described, but I wouldn't grouse about additions. Distance?

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Scearcy posted this 15 March 2017

50 yards

Haven't ruled out the other 30s for sure. 45 2.1 do you want to shoot one of the calibers you mentioned above?

Jim

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45 2.1 posted this 16 March 2017

I prefer the 308 more than the '06 myself. I hunt small game and vermin with most of the year.

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Scearcy posted this 18 March 2017

We are going to need some more shooters to make this fly.

Jim

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shake posted this 18 March 2017

Sounds good to me. I'm in.

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Millelacs posted this 20 March 2017

Sounds like fun

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Scearcy posted this 21 March 2017

OK let's open it up! We probably need 12-15 shooters expressing interest to allow for normal attrition. We'll give it another week and see if we can find 6-8 more more shooters.

I am going to be an optimist and order some groundhog targets today. I'll post one when I get them.

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loophole posted this 21 March 2017

I'm new here.  Is this a postal match?  I have a pre-64 mod 70 just looking for an excuse to shoot.

loophole

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David Reiss CBA Membership Director posted this 21 March 2017

Yes, it will be an informal postal match, coordinated by Jim Scearcy & Ken Campbell. 

David Reiss - NRA Life Member & PSC Range Member Retired Police Firearms Instructor/Armorer
-Services: Wars Fought, Uprisings Quelled, Bars Emptied, Revolutions Started, Tigers Tamed, Assassinations Plotted, Women Seduced, Governments Run, Gun Appraisals, Lost Treasure Found.
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Scearcy posted this 21 March 2017

Welcome loophole. David is correct. Your Model 70 is perfect. we are going to wait a week to see if we can get about a dozen possibles. Its only March yet so I am sure we are a couple of months at least away from collecting targets so there is not much of a hurry yet.

Jim Scearcy

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loophole posted this 21 March 2017

count me in.

Loophole

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SouthDakota1 posted this 22 March 2017

This is a rather interesting challenge here.  Please count me in as one of the additional shooters....I have an 30-06 just waiting to group class slugs.  Thanks.

 

Marc

Marc A. Moore

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Pepe Ray posted this 22 March 2017

Count me in as well. Since you're willing to chance my existance, why not?  It will be a while before the snow leaves my range.

Pepe Ray

Only in His name.

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Bohica793 posted this 22 March 2017

Add me to the list.  I have several candidates to shoot in this.

One question:  Is a Williams receiver peep sight considered legal for these matches?

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SamIam posted this 22 March 2017

Count me in. I've just started shooting plain based in my '03A3

Sam

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Scearcy posted this 22 March 2017

Bohica793

Receiver sights are fine. We are going to lump scopes and iron sights together unless we get several of each who actually send in targets. Then we'll separate into two groups. 

Jim

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Scearcy posted this 22 March 2017

We have 11 “possibles” so this is looking promising. Later today I'll start restating some of the rules - and we are not going to be heavy on the rules.  In general we are going to use the bunny match rules.

THE KEY DIFFERENCES FROM THE BUNNY RULES ARE: WE WILL HAVE NO WEIGHT LIMIT, WE ARE NOT SHOOTING HANDGUNS AND WE ARE USING THE NRA GROUNDHOG TARGET.

Jim

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SierraHunter posted this 22 March 2017

Are sythetic stocks allowed? I would like to use my blackout.

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Scearcy posted this 22 March 2017

SH

Yes synthetic stocks are allowed.

ALSO A REMINDER FOR EVERYONE: PLAIN BASE BULLETS ONLY; 4X LIMIT ON THE SCOPE - variables can simply be turned down.

SH I am going to try my PB bullet with a little Bullseye in my 300 BLK although I am going to shoot a 3006 in this event.

Jim

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SierraHunter posted this 22 March 2017

I'll probably break out the 311466 and pop off a few. I haven't had the time to work on the project much with the move, but I'll try to get a target in.

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RicinYakima posted this 23 March 2017

Count me in, I have a 30/06 Newton with only iron sights I haven't shot in years. And I have an Accurate plain based clone of the Lyman 311440. Seems to be OK.

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Scearcy posted this 23 March 2017

Perfect - just what we were hoping for.

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Scearcy posted this 24 March 2017

Here is the target we are planning to use. I placed a 243 cartridge on it to give an indication of size.

 

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Old Coot posted this 24 March 2017

I love it.  I would like to play too if I can get my 06 up and running.

Brodie

B.E.Brickey

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Duke M posted this 26 March 2017

Okay, I'll give it a try. 

Duke

 

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JeffinNZ posted this 26 March 2017

I could be tempted. 

Cheers from New Zealand

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Scearcy posted this 27 March 2017

Good Monday Morning

I am on my third cup of coffee and ready to go which is a relative term these days. We have 16 potential shooters including Ken and I which is excellent. Lets get this party started. Here are some of the big parameters:

At the end of this post I will give my email address. Send me an email and I will email you a sign up sheet .  

Return the signup sheet to me with 5$ and I will send you an equipment sheet, a rules sheet and 3 targets.  One of the targets will be returned to me for record

It is fine if you want to shoot two or more rifles. Just send me $10 and I will send two packets, etc.

It is usually best to get things rolling before our short attention spans move on to something else. Please try to get your emails to me soon enough so that I can get the targets to you by the last week in April.

The target due date for submitting your targets and equipment sheets is May 31

I will distribute the results by mail as well as putting something in TFS.

If I don't need the full $5 for expenses, I will return the excess (in $1 increments) with the results

Jim Scearcy

 

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Scearcy posted this 27 March 2017

Here is my email:

jhscearcy@gmail.com

Jim

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Ross Smith posted this 27 March 2017

May I shoot a gc bullet without the gc? If not I'll just have to shoot my old trapdoor. Ross

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Scearcy posted this 27 March 2017

Ross

A GC bullet w/o the GC is perfectly fine.

 

Jim

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David Reiss CBA Membership Director posted this 27 March 2017

Jim,

I've got a Mossage rifle, it is ok too? 

David Reiss - NRA Life Member & PSC Range Member Retired Police Firearms Instructor/Armorer
-Services: Wars Fought, Uprisings Quelled, Bars Emptied, Revolutions Started, Tigers Tamed, Assassinations Plotted, Women Seduced, Governments Run, Gun Appraisals, Lost Treasure Found.
- Also deal in: Land, Banjos, Nails, Firearms, Manure, Fly Swatters, Used Cars, Whisky, Racing Forms, Rare Antiquities, Lead, Used Keyboard Keys & Dogs, Pith Helmets & Zulu Headdresses. .

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Scearcy posted this 27 March 2017

David

Am I correct that a Mossage rifle has something to do with massages? If so we would need to know how to score your results.

 Jim

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David Reiss CBA Membership Director posted this 27 March 2017

Jim,

I saw that you were allowing Remchesters and know that my Mossage is considered to be a second class rifle, but I thought I would ask. I knew better than to ask about my J.C. Marlestern and know that Stevings were banned years ago. 

David Reiss - NRA Life Member & PSC Range Member Retired Police Firearms Instructor/Armorer
-Services: Wars Fought, Uprisings Quelled, Bars Emptied, Revolutions Started, Tigers Tamed, Assassinations Plotted, Women Seduced, Governments Run, Gun Appraisals, Lost Treasure Found.
- Also deal in: Land, Banjos, Nails, Firearms, Manure, Fly Swatters, Used Cars, Whisky, Racing Forms, Rare Antiquities, Lead, Used Keyboard Keys & Dogs, Pith Helmets & Zulu Headdresses. .

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argie1891 posted this 27 March 2017

I would like to be included in the postal match argie1891  joe Gifford   argie1891@yahoo.com

if you need me I will be at the range

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shake posted this 27 March 2017

Shake: EMAIL address   dantzlerstan@gmail.com

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Scearcy posted this 27 March 2017

You got me with that one, David

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Scearcy posted this 27 March 2017

Stan and Joe

Got you on the list.

Jim

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Scearcy posted this 30 March 2017

I have sent signup sheets to 11 shooters. It should be safe to assume we are a definite go! If possible would everyone get the signup sheets back to me by April 15 (traditionally a black day in my household). This would help keep us on schedule to collect the finished targets by the end of May.

Thanks

Jim

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Duke M posted this 31 March 2017

Sign up sheet out in the mail box. If there is any left over money don't bother sending me a refund. Apply it to the Jim Scearcy primer fund.

Duke

 

 

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Scearcy posted this 04 April 2017

I have attached a target with the scoring zones marked. The 9 and 10 rings are preprinted on the target. The 5/7 line is 1” below the bottom of the 9 ring.

 

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Ross Smith posted this 05 April 2017

Mr. Scearcy: I'm still figgern out this site, count me in . Ross at smry@cut.net

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Scearcy posted this 05 April 2017

Ross

I will email you at smry@cut.net . If in doubt email me jhscearcy@gmail.com.

I started mailing targets yesterday. It looks like we are going to have a nice turnout.

Jim

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Scearcy posted this 05 April 2017

Ross I couldn't get an email to go through. Please email me at jhscearcy@gmail.com

JIm

 

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longhunter posted this 07 April 2017

 Yes I would like to shoot this.  How do I sign up.

Jon welda

Jon Welda CW5 USA Ret. 608 797 0056

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Bohica793 posted this 08 April 2017

Received targets today.  Thanks!

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Ross Smith posted this 27 April 2017

All: I did it, at least the first half. Shot my 30-06 at the groundhog today. I want you'alll to know that I have last place all locked up and it's useless for any of you to try and do worse. I did scare that overgrown rat though. Next I'm gonna try my 375 schuetzen rifle just for kicks. I had enough trouble getting up and down from a sitting position once for 10 shots from the '06 but it will be murder on my arthritis to do it 10 times for the muzzleloading schuetzen. I want to thank all for the opportunity to shoot, that's what it's about right, the opportunity.  Ross

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Bohica793 posted this 27 April 2017

Not so fast, Ross.  I still haven't found a load for my 7.62x54R that puts all 10 shots on paper, much less on the rodent so I will be giving you a run for that last place prize.

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Ken Campbell Iowa posted this 27 April 2017

thanks guys ... looks like we will be members of a growing club ... i am * trying * the shoot with store-bot bullets that came with noses and tails way too small for my 30 cal ... i actually sent off to brownells and ordered a bulk pack of brass brushes and 4x steel wool ...

if big groups teach us ... i figure i will be really smart by the time i get through the box of skinny 500 .... hmmm . wonder if they would work in my 7mm ??

ken

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Ross Smith posted this 28 April 2017

Well Ken, if you want to melt those down I'll send you the rest of 250 gr. They were actually a little too big for the throat in my rifle. PS. I use brass or copper chore boys to scrub out my mistakes. Supposedly they are a little more gentle on the barrel. Just wrap some around a PLASTIC brush.   The plastic brushes will clean up and be reusable as opposed to the brass brushes that I atleast can trash in one use.   Fun ain't it!   Ross

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Ken Campbell Iowa posted this 28 April 2017

ross ... thanks for the offer ... but i am determined to either figure out how to keep these squirters on the target ... or go down in a shower of smoke and sparks .  and maybe lead slivers .

yeah, if you use copper solvent on copper brushes they can disappear real fast ...     i have used oiled 4x steel wool for ever, and have seen no ill effects .  i have heard brass chore boy is great tho .

ken

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Scearcy posted this 01 May 2017

Hi Guys

Its May 1 and targets are due no later than 30 days from now. The earliest targets are just beginning to trickle in.  It is snowing here in MN today. I don't think I will try to shoot my targets until it gets up to 60 degrees. Whimpy I know!

Jim

 

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longhunter posted this 01 May 2017

1st of May and snowing here also.

By weeks end we are to be up in the 70's.  I hope!

Ammo is loaded now to the range.

Thanks Jim for putting this fun shoot on.

Jon

Jon Welda CW5 USA Ret. 608 797 0056

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GWarden posted this 02 May 2017

This target is being shot at 100yds, is that correct?

Bob

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Scearcy posted this 02 May 2017

50 yards!

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Duke M posted this 03 May 2017

Jim, if GWarden wants to shoot his at 100, who are we to stop him?

Duke

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Scearcy posted this 03 May 2017

Duke, Excellent point.  How about if we restate the rule to AT LEAST 50 yds?

Jim

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Ken Campbell Iowa posted this 03 May 2017

...hmmm . i have seen some of gwarden's targets .... i suggest a special * gwarden * rule ...  i am thinking 200 yards offhand ....

ken

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Bohica793 posted this 05 May 2017

Mailed targets back today.  While the 38-55 target is acceptable, the T53 is definitely in the hunt for dead last place.......

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Scearcy posted this 06 May 2017

I went to the range yesterday to work on my "inventory" of potential field positions. The best advice I can give you is to not bet any money on cementing last place before my targets are in.

Jim

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Scearcy posted this 11 May 2017

We have 7 targets back in. There are 3 weeks left to get your targets in. No perfect 100s yet! Actually the scoring is quite close on most targets

Jim

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