Beagle6

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beagle6 posted this 09 April 2018

Hi. I've been a member of the Cast Bullet Association for several years But have just joined the forum. I've been casting bullets since 1974 and my main interest is vintage military rifles: an 1853 Enfield, a Krag, Mauser, Carcano, SMLE, and my current project, a Trapdoor Springfield which I'm trying to get to shoot Collar Button Bullets without success so far. 

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Ken Campbell Iowa posted this 10 April 2018

hi ... welcome to the land of instant gratification .... ha ....

i have been playing with light plinker loads in my 45-70 ... ( ruger3 ) and have trouble getting really light bullets to burn cleanly ... even with fastest powders ....  i may surrender and go to heavier bullets .... or a filler, which would be a lot of filler in that big case ...

along that line, make sure your bullets are sized big enough to fill the throat of your chamber ... i would expect the dimensions vary a lot .... i have wanted a trapdoor since i was a kid when a neighbor had one he paid about $6 for ... a genuine one ...

getting old guns to shoot decent is a fun challenge ... and i always think they might have a story or two to tell ...

ken

 

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GP Idaho posted this 10 April 2018

Hello Beagle6, welcome to the forum.  With your interests being old military rifles be sure to check out the antique Mauser Mike has for sale here on the CBA forum. Like Ken mentioned, I haven't had much luck with light bullets in the 45-70s either. Gp

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onondaga posted this 10 April 2018

" I'm trying to get to shoot Collar Button Bullets without success so far. "

An excellent filler for very light charges with Collar Button Bullets in 45-70 is available from most hardware stores. Frost King 1/2" diameter caulk comes in coils and is a foam insulation product for windows. Just cut a piece long enough to slightly compress with your available load space.

I have used the product for filler in very light loads, even plinking round ball loads in .458 Win Mag and I'm sure it would work well in 45-70. The foam is so light that no pressure problems occur and it just falls downrange a few yards mostly intact. When used as a filler the Frost King stuff fills the airspace and holds the charge against the primer flash hole. It works well and aids in good ignition of small charges in the big 45 cal, it is simple and cheap. I pick it up after shooting at the range, it is litter at that point.

Here is the product :

https://www.amazon.com/Frost-King-C22H-2-Inch-20-Foot/dp/B000BQSSXY/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1523357105&sr=8-7&keywords=frost+king+1%2F2+weather+stripping

 

Gary

 

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Ken Campbell Iowa posted this 10 April 2018

thanks gary .... i will try that stuff ....  would like to get a 45-70 load that i could plink with more than 3 or 4 shots every week while my shoulder is being re-located ... ha ...

there is just something special about the way half-inch bullets make a soda can jump ....

ken * 18 *

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onondaga posted this 10 April 2018

If you gents try the 1/2" Frost King for filler with light bullets in 45-70; I didn't go researching a charge, I simply used a light.410 ga shotgun charge.right out of a book.

 

Gary

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45 2.1 posted this 10 April 2018

Before you do this, you really need to read what Charlie Dell said about it in his book. He could ring a old soft steel chamber on demand by using wads against the powder. He recommended a wad in front and a certain distance off the powder (so the powder assumed a slope) to avoid chamber ringing. Heed his warning!

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