Would you be interested in participating in a Black Powder Postal Match?

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David Reiss CBA Membership Director posted this 11 December 2016

GWarden posted the topic below, so I decided to repost it with a poll to see how much interest we have for it.

 

How, and is there enough interest to have a postal match for cast with Black Powder. I think many underestimate the accuracy with cast and BP loads. Have bench 100 and 200 yd. , allow any lead bullet, breech seat or fixed. Could allow any power scope. There are some that have spent the time, and such loads will shoot right along with smokeless loads. Would be great to share the info with other shooters, and see just how good such BP loads can be developed. I would be willing to help with such a postal match in any way I could. You all have a good day.

Bob   Iowa

David Reiss - NRA Life Member & PSC Range Member Retired Police Firearms Instructor/Armorer
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GWarden posted this 11 December 2016

YES

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David Reiss CBA Membership Director posted this 11 December 2016

YES

 

Go back to the post and click on yes then the vote button.

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delmarskid posted this 11 December 2016

yes

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David Reiss CBA Membership Director posted this 11 December 2016

You have to vote in the poll at the top of the link, or your vote won't be counted. After you click on the thread, the yes or no response is above, and then you have to hit cast vote.

David Reiss - NRA Life Member & PSC Range Member Retired Police Firearms Instructor/Armorer
-Services: Wars Fought, Uprisings Quelled, Bars Emptied, Revolutions Started, Tigers Tamed, Assassinations Plotted, Women Seduced, Governments Run, Gun Appraisals, Lost Treasure Found.
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rhbrink posted this 11 December 2016

I vote YES but could not make my vote count on the above link?

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GWarden posted this 11 December 2016

I had the same thing, could not make my vote count.

Bob

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David Reiss CBA Membership Director posted this 11 December 2016

Just moving the thread back to the latest.

David Reiss - NRA Life Member & PSC Range Member Retired Police Firearms Instructor/Armorer
-Services: Wars Fought, Uprisings Quelled, Bars Emptied, Revolutions Started, Tigers Tamed, Assassinations Plotted, Women Seduced, Governments Run, Gun Appraisals, Lost Treasure Found.
- Also deal in: Land, Banjos, Nails, Firearms, Manure, Fly Swatters, Used Cars, Whisky, Racing Forms, Rare Antiquities, Lead, Used Keyboard Keys & Dogs, Pith Helmets & Zulu Headdresses. .

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oscarflytyer posted this 12 December 2016

Revolver - yes!  Now that I finally have some time what with all the kids out of the house, I would enjoy doing some postal matches

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4060may posted this 12 December 2016

yes

I already do, match #22

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longhunter posted this 14 December 2016

Yes 

I did vote 

I just found Match #22 on our Forum.

In our mag the postol match list stops at  #21.

Jon Welda CW5 USA Ret. 608 797 0056

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MKastning posted this 14 December 2016

Thanks for noting the postal list in the Fouling Shot stops at #21.  I will work to get that revised promptly. 

The #22 BPCR match is at a turkey silhouette.  Would this suffice for what you guys are thinking above or would you like to see something along the lines of the regular CBA target?  I am open to suggestions if you think there would be enough interest. 

For one request though, if we could keep the various “divisions” to just a couple to start.  It keeps people from shooting in classes by themselves if we can limit to one or two.

I have a computer working again now, so I will check in on this thread as I prepare for the 2017 postal season.  If it doesn't make it in time to get into the match guide mailing, we can figure out a scenario that works and people that read this thread can order a match anyway.    Would anyone be up for acting as scorer? 

Michael

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rmrix posted this 14 December 2016

I voted YES - but I would offer the following:  Summer months are full and not just with shooting and matches but lots of other fun and not so fun stuff - like painting the house.

The Postal Matches schedule for BPCR matches might get just as large a following if you used the early to mid Spring months to shoot it.  Maybe March, April & May.  I know I would have to pass if it were to be held in the summer just because there is already so much going on.

Michael Rix

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tlkeizer posted this 14 December 2016

Greetings,

Sure, lets have a basic BP shoot.  I would like to see it start a bit later in the year as it is -38 now, and it gets cold in January and February. 

TK

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Tom Acheson posted this 14 December 2016

Yes, I will give it a try. I've shot the CBA Postal's # 13 (Single Shot) and #22 (BPCR 200-yard) for quite a few seasons. This one will be like the #13 and almost like the #22 with the exception of target.  Here we will use a 200-yard Military CBA target while the CBA Postal uses a turkey silhouette, reduced in size to provide the sight picture you'd see as if you were shooting it at the NRA distance of 385-meters.

I have to find a new, more accurate load for my rifle before chasing the Postal events. But that's half the fun!

 

Tom

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4060may posted this 14 December 2016

yes, I will shoot it for sure

there are a couple of guys I shoot with will probably do it also, if Breech Seating is allowed

Mike

If you need someone to score, I would give it a try for the first season.....

PM for particulars

 

Chuck

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SierraHunter posted this 15 December 2016

I have never played with black powder, but want to try it. Would substitutes be allowed?

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GWarden posted this 15 December 2016

BP substitutes will be OK

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SierraHunter posted this 16 December 2016

Cool. I don't own any true black, and honestly don't know anywhere around here to buy it.

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Old Coot posted this 17 December 2016

I would like to take part in said postal matches.

Brodie

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MarkinEllensburg posted this 17 December 2016

No vote only because I do not own a BP rifle. Outstanding idea though.

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GWarden posted this 17 December 2016

Thanks to all of you for your support and interest in the BP cartridge shoot. Hopefully you all have seen the proposed agenda for the matches; they are posted over on “Guns& Shooting” and then check “BP cartridge & muzzle loading shooting. Wishing you all a blessed Christmas.

Bob

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Maven posted this 17 December 2016

Not opposed to it by any stretch of the imagination, but I'd like to see some specifics.

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GWarden posted this 18 December 2016

The specs for the matches can be found over on “Black Powder Cartridge” in the forum. Thanks for your interest.

Bob

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Ross Smith posted this 29 April 2017

Ross votes yes but I too could'nt make the vote thingy work.

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beltfed posted this 29 April 2017

I would like to try the BP postal match.

beltfed/arnie

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beltfed posted this 29 April 2017

But I was apparently too late to vote above. "polls closed"

beltfed/arnie

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David R. posted this 15 August 2017

Sounds like fun. Would need a black powder gun, but that could be arranged. 

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Maven posted this 15 August 2017

"No vote only because I do not own a BP rifle. Outstanding idea though."

What Mark said!

 

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Bohica793 posted this 15 August 2017

Being the proud owner of a new (to me) Trapdoor in 50-70, I am interested in this.  My concerns stem from a complete lack of knowledge of shooting BP as I have never done so.  From my reading, there are a lot more details to this than shooting smokeless.  Soft alloys, over-powder cards, lube cookies, drop tubes, powder compression, blow tubes.....a lot to keep up with.  Where do I find the "Dummies Guide to BPCR"?

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4060may posted this 15 August 2017

look for a .pdf on the web

Introduction to Black Powder Cartridge Rifle Loading
By
Chuck Raithel aka Coydog

if you can not find it PM and I will send a copy

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R. Dupraz posted this 15 August 2017

Lots of info on the net.

Another------

 

SPG Lubricants BP Cartridge Reloading Manual

Mike Venturino  &  Steve Garbe

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Bohica793 posted this 15 August 2017

The mechanics of casting, loading and shooting I think I can handle.  What concerns me more than anything is cleaning and maintenance in a BP world.  I want to insure a long(er) life for this fine rifle and proper cleaning and maintenance is essential. As with everything on the net, there is a lot of conflicting information from all the "experts", so until I actually go through the steps I am going to be experiencing increased anxiety.

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R. Dupraz posted this 16 August 2017

If you intend to use the "real Black", there is only one cleaner that I have used for many years and recommend for muzzle loaders and BPCR's. And that is "Ballistol". Just do a search for it and find my posts in the archives. Don't know about cleaning for the fake powders. 

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Bohica793 posted this 16 August 2017

Thanks for the information.  I do plan to only shoot "real" black and not the substitutes.

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Old Coot posted this 17 August 2017

Ballistol works just fine when you clean the substitutes, real black, and even smokeless.  

Not only that , but it will brighten your teeth, make you car run better, and improve the value of your home.  Claims not know to be substantiated. Brodie

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longhunter posted this 17 August 2017

Well I would vote yes but the poll was closed.

Just cast up some 530gr Postels yesterday!

Jon

Jon Welda CW5 USA Ret. 608 797 0056

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Tom Acheson posted this 17 August 2017

I was at a Scheutzen match this past Sunday, using my C. Sharps in .40-70 SS and Old Eynsford 1 1/2 BP. While cleaning the barrel afterwards, another shooter was watching and commented on how after 6 patches the patch was white and clean. He said he uses Hoppes BP solvent and takes a lot more patches to get close to clean. I think the stuff I was using is called EZ Clean. Another shooter on the line that day said he uses it also.

https://www.traditionsfirearms.com/product/ez-clean-2-bore-solvent

FWIW

Tom

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Old Coot posted this 17 August 2017

I think I said this before, but I too would like to participate in a Black Powder Postal, and I clean my rifle with Ballistol, but real black is just too hard to get around here so I would need to use a substitute.  

I think that Ed Harris looked up the safety sheet on Ballistol and found that it was mostly medical grade mineral oil so don't brush your teeth with it or you'll have clean pipes too.

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.22-10-45 posted this 17 August 2017

For black powder cleanup (Swiss 1 1/2 & 3FG) I have been using Butch's Black Powder Bore Shine.  These are original Ballard  & Remington roling block rifles..and believe me, if there was any doubt on my part as to the safety or effectivness of this product on these valuable  antiques I wouldn't be using it!  Usually 3 patches thru wet with Bore shine..and the 3rd. comes out as white as it went in..amazing stuff.  I follow with dry patches & run patch wet with Arizona Sharpshooters Dago Red thru.  I make it a point to check..as well as run another patch of Dago Red thru for the next 3 days.  I would have no worry of running a patch of Ed's Red thru after the butch's in place of the Dago Red.  Never had a problem with corrosion with this method.  Case clean-up is alot more work than rifle cleaning.

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Tom Acheson posted this 17 August 2017

Slight error in my previous post.

I clean with the Butch's BP solvent (noted in .22-10-45's post) and run a patch with the Ez solution through the bore and wipe the metal surfaces down with it after the bore is cleaned. Butch's stuff works great!

 

Tom

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oscarflytyer posted this 2 weeks ago

Revolver?  That would be a hoot!

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alco posted this 2 weeks ago

Yes, but I couldn't get my vote to count

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beltfed posted this 2 weeks ago

Re.  Cleaning a BPCR rifle:

A.  Several snug fit patches wet with Windex Multisurface w/Vinegar

B. Dry patch

C. Patch wet with  Rubbing alcohol, preferably 99% to remove residual moisture.

D. Dry patch

E.  Olive or Canola Oil patch if shooting rifle again, soon. Otherwise good gun oil or RIG gun grease for longer term storage.

Easier than cleaning a rifle after smokeless/jacketed shooting.

beltfed/arnie

 

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