CE Harris and American Rifleman April 1976

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Vacek posted this 03 January 2014

I picked up a bunch of old AR mags from the 60's and 70's at a flea market.  CE Harris wrote an absolutely awesome article entitled “Handloaded Shotshells for .45 ACP Handgun Hunters". 

Probably everyone on the forum already is aware of it, but regardless it is truly a useful article. 

I am wondering if RCBS still provides the necessary dies for this setup.

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Ed Harris posted this 03 January 2014

They do, but they are prohibitively expensive now.

73 de KE4SKY In Home Mix We Trust From the Home of Ed's Red in "Almost Heaven" West Virginia

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Vacek posted this 03 January 2014

I am going to use some of the basic technique for a 45 Colt.  I have used gas checks but like the idea of the 410 Remington Shot Cup.  My guess is I would still need an gas check for the shot retainer.

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j35nut posted this 04 January 2014

Not to sell ED's article short or steal his thunder.

But in Handloader #80 Oliver C. Buschow did a good write up on 45 acp shotshells as well using the RCBS dies.

Thank you MR Harris for brainstorming the concept of a functioning shot load in a 45 ACP.

----J :^:

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Vassal posted this 04 January 2014

In April of '76 I was gleam in my father's eye,,,

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Vacek posted this 05 January 2014

Ed Harris wrote some very good articles during his tenure there.  I don't know why he left but they lost a good researcher/writer.

 

 

AR is not the magazine it use to be.  I pretty much buy any I can find before 1990. 

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mike morrison posted this 06 January 2014

I moved in 1979 and trashed ten years of AR. Wish I had them today. and yes it is not what it was.

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Ed Harris posted this 06 January 2014

Vacek wrote: Ed Harris wrote some very good articles during his tenure there.  I don't know why he left but they lost a good researcher/writer.

AR is not the magazine it use to be.  I pretty much buy any I can find before 1990. 

These links tell the story much better than I can.  In short, the NRA made a pact with the devil. They turned NRA Publications into a whore for the industry because they only wanted the advertising dollars to lobby with.  The members were no longer important, only the advertisers, follow the money!

http://www.blogforarizona.com/blog/2013/01/a-cautionary-tale-of-how-the-nra-was-hijacked-by-conspiracy-theory-radicals.html>http://www.blogforarizona.com/blog/2013/01/a-cautionary-tale-of-how-the-nra-was-hijacked-by-conspiracy-theory-radicals.html

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/how-nras-true-believers-converted-a-marksmanship-group-into-a-mighty-gun-lobby/2013/01/12/51c62288-59b9-11e2-88d0-c4cf65c3ad15_story.html>http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/how-nras-true-believers-converted-a-marksmanship-group-into-a-mighty-gun-lobby/2013/01/12/51c62288-59b9-11e2-88d0-c4cf65c3ad15story.html

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/achenblog/wp/2013/01/13/nra-history-the-making-of-the-gun-lobby/>http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/achenblog/wp/2013/01/13/nra-history-the-making-of-the-gun-lobby/

http://www.amazon.ca/Ricochet-Confessions-Lobbyist-Richard-Feldman/dp/0471679283>http://www.amazon.ca/Ricochet-Confessions-Lobbyist-Richard-Feldman/dp/0471679283

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/14/us/wayne-lapierre-the-gun-man-sticking-to-his-cause.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0>http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/14/us/wayne-lapierre-the-gun-man-sticking-to-his-cause.html?pagewanted=all&r=0

73 de KE4SKY In Home Mix We Trust From the Home of Ed's Red in "Almost Heaven" West Virginia

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CB posted this 06 January 2014

Ouch. The truth is an ugly thing. The last time I renewed, I asked them to keep their magazine.

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Vassal posted this 06 January 2014

Let us all vote, who wants the CBA to become politically active?  

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Ed Harris posted this 06 January 2014

I think that the CBA becoming politically active would be a mistake. There are too many US gun lobby groups competing for funds and diluting the message.

Also, CBA is international. We should not burden our members in other countries with our dirty linen.

73 de KE4SKY In Home Mix We Trust From the Home of Ed's Red in "Almost Heaven" West Virginia

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LWesthoff posted this 06 January 2014

Re:  Vassal's tongue-in-cheek proposal, I vote NO!  I"ve been a dues paying member for quite a few years now; shouldn't I be allowed more than one vote?

Wes

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Ken Campbell Iowa posted this 06 January 2014

i vote ” mostly no ” , but an occasional witty remark on gun issues .. between the lines ... would be appreciated ... after a stearn admonishment from a list mommy, of course ...

ideal punishment would be a years free membership ...

I. B. GUILTY

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Maven posted this 06 January 2014

Posts 11 & 13 say it all. Besides, do we really want to become like that other site?

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R. Dupraz posted this 06 January 2014

I have been a member of the NRA for nearly 60 yrs. and a lifer for 50. And yes I really don't care if the American Rifleman comes or not any more because I still remember what it once was. But nothing ever stays the same. That's just a fact of life. Oh, how I wish I still had my first new car, a 1968 RS SS Camaro. But I don't, It's long gone, never to return. And no, I don't always agree with what the hierarchy does or says sometimes but without it's political clout, members, where do you think we would be today? As distasteful as the political game is nowadays, that's the way things are  done in our present society anymore.  I am glad that they can put fear into the hearts of some legislators because too many are only there for the sole reason of furthering there own personal agenda or fatten their own port folio anyway. Why should they be afraid of the NRA in the first place. Many years ago, then NRA president Joe Foss spoke to at a gathering of sportsman near here. If you don't know who Joe Foss was, just Google the name. A SD boy by the way. Anyway he related a conversation that he had had with a sportsman  that refused to join the NRA because he didn't agree with something that they had done regarding an issue. Joe asked, “Do you always agree with your wife” The reply was, "Of course not.” Joe,- Why don't you leave her then"?  The best way to make each voice heard is at the ballot box every time we get a chance.

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MKastning posted this 06 January 2014

To me, the CBA is a place to go to not think of politics. Just learn, cast, load, shoot, learn some more.

I like it like that.

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Maven posted this 06 January 2014

Amen!:)

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CB posted this 07 January 2014

Maven wrote: Posts 11 & 13 say it all. Besides, do we really want to become like that other site? I really thought were were going to have blood in the streets there about a week ago.

Holy smoke! I quit posting to my own thread because it had gotten so far out of hand. If it happens again, I'll simply ask a Mod to kill the thread.

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Millelacs posted this 08 January 2014

I would agree that the CBA should keep out of routine politics. There are enough other organizations to take care of that.

How many of us are active in our State & Local organizations?

Regarding the NRA and what is is / was / isn't: There needs to be some organization on the national level to look after our rights. Otherwise there will be so many (one sided) “compromises” that the only firearms we'll have left will be the ones buried out in the woods.

Having the anti-gunners scared to death of the NRA isn't necessarily a bad thing

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Vacek posted this 09 January 2014

Noted regarding all the comments.

My initial post was in regards to C.E. Harris' excellent scholarship and experience and general frustration with the lack of comparable technical information.  I too agree that CBA should be what it is and the NRA, even with the warts and wrinkles, is still our primary lobby regarding our rights. 

It was disconcerting reading the links and now understanding all the forces at work that radically changed the NRA. 

Regardless, I am heading back to the flea market this week to find more articles from the time of his tenure.

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