Lee Precision has asked me to poll CBA members for suggestions on bullet designs they should add to their line for next year. This post cast a little larger net than just CBA members but I would welcome your suggestions on designs you would like to see them offer. Please give enough details. A drawing would be ideal but describing it in words would be a start -- caliber,weight, nose shape, etc. I will compile your suggestions and see that they get back to the person at Lee who wants the information. This is your chance to possibly influence what is offered. Thanks for your suggestions. John
What bullet design would you like to see a mold for?
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A 150 gr. double ended, bevel base, wadcutter that would cast at .360-.361 out of wheel weight-ish metal would be nice. In both standard lube groove and tumble lube groove design.
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.312” top band and body, .300” nose, tumble lube 175 gr with bevel base and extreme RanchDog type flat nose meplat for 30 caliber hunting.
. the .312” drop diameter would cover 30-30, .308, etc. plus 7.62X39 and .303 Brit with a non gas check big game hunting bullet.
The lack of plain base bullets in 30 cal. rifle bullets from Lee discourages beginners from starting and experts do well with plain base bullets in any caliber.
Gary
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They're missing the market at the bottom end. Clearly they can make .22 moulds as they do runs for Midsouth. They need to look at .22, .243, .25cal.
Cheers from New Zealand
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I agree with Jeff. There is very little coverage below 30 cal. I'd like to see a heavier 7MM bullet, perhaps 150 grain, but not for hunting. My personal preference would be .287” drive bands and the same nose profile as the 7MM 130 gr. with a .277” nose diameter, gascheck base, and no crimp groove. Get the additional 20 grains in the nose, not the body. Bore rider of course.
My 2 cents.
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Small caliber pistol and rifle bullets. Lee has abandoned the small caliber market
75 gr or so for .32 ACP (RN & FP)
.22 cal rifle bullets for Black Rifles, Mini-14s and bolt actions
6.5mm 140 gr Spitzer and 160 gr RN for Swedish Mausers
I would think there would be a need for 6mm and .257 cal moulds
There might be a small market for..25 ACP. Even in good times, finding ammo could be like finding hen's teeth.
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Two designs, both .30 cal.
Exact copy of the 311299, GC, one GG, Base bands at true 3ll, Nose at .301"-.302", Same nose profile, (radius), only shortened to weigh in at 175 grns. Suitable for the short necked .30's
Same as above but with two GG and again shortened from the 311299 example so that the weight would be 180-190 grns.
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A 90 grr. flat point plain base .259-.260 for a 25-20.
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1 an 80 grain bullet with small meplat for 32 ACP
2 A bullet around 180-200 grains dropping at .314 for 30 cal Mil-Surps
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20 gauge BULLET for the milliom 20 ga. fully rifled deer ” shotguns ” ... full cone diameter, just like RULE 1 for accuracy. maybe 0.645, let loaders size as necessary.
oh yeah, also a round ball same diameter.
i think those 20 ga. handi rifles could win some shootin matches.
i would order the first one ..
ken
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They're missing the market at the bottom end. Clearly they can make .22 moulds as they do runs for Midsouth. They need to look at .22, .243, .25cal.
If they would produce the smaller caliber molds, it would also be nice to be able to buy sprue plates with smaller sprue holes. The present sprue plate hole on the 22 Bator is appropriate for the larger calibers, but is so large it distorts the bullet base on the smaller bullets when cutting the sprue.
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A .22 plain base for mimicking .22RF ballistics with small capacity .22CF's- Hornet, Bee, etc.
Ditto Duane's comments re: .22 Bator sprue plates.
A plain base 180gr. .30 caliber with band diameters tapering a la The old Pope designs would be neat.
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I would like to see a .454” as cast revolver bullet with a hollow base. Flat point of at least 50% and round nose with a full sized driving band ahead of the crimp groove. Crimp groove for 45 Colt in SAA. Hollow base large enough for a WW bullet to expand to cylinder diameter at 10,000 psi. Hollow base plug made from good quality aluminum as well as the mould blocks of better quality, like the 6 cavity ones. Ric
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There seems to be a real lack of .270 molds. I'd like to see a good accurate .270 design, could be tapered loverin type, an Ed Harris type, or an LBT type. Short unsupported nose section, long bearing surface, conventional grease grooves, gas check,.280 diameter. Round or pointed would be my preference, but if people want to hunt with it, flat would be o.k. Grouch
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I would like to see a mould that copys CBEs #313-220-GC that would be C315-220-F or C316-220-F with .304 nose.
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I'm with Grouch. A .270 mold would be a nice addition to their line.
Eric
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I'd like to see a true truncated cone bullet in the 130grain weight area for 9mm, preferably plain base.
Edd
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Loverin designs with plenty of diameter. i.e. .226", 260", 289", 313", 326", .360".. I can size down, I find it difficult to enlarge. With all due respect to Beagling etc. I'd rather start out with plenty of girth.
Duke
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Since they originally produced all the Ranch Dog molds it would be great if they brought them back as a stock item. At least make the ones that were popular sellers. Also, at least one mold with a flat nose design for all rifle calibers, that produce bullets with ww alloy at least .002” - .003” over nominal groove diameter. The .35 Rem is as much a cast bullet round as the 30-30 but they have never listed a bullet for it that I can remember in 35 years I have been casting. +1 for 6 cavity rifle molds. With the complaints about the 2 cavity mounting screws, or whatever they are, they may want beef them up or find a way to consistently keep them from being too close to the outside edge. I have some of the bad ones and am troubled by how they got past quality control.
Robert Homan
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Any and all of the Lovern designs. They make the best bullets for paper patching.
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A 150 gr. double ended, bevel base, wadcutter that would cast at .360-.361 out of wheel weight-ish metal would be nice. In both standard lube groove and tumble lube groove design.
^^This with the exception that it is plain based. Bevel base is too messy in the lubesizer.
I also agree that there is a dire lacking of .270 molds that begs to be filled.
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I like Onondaga ' s idea. .312 diameter as cast, no gas check & a big ole meplat.
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Why .312? everything .312 can do .314 can do better,,,
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Vassal:A .312 bullet can be used as cast (in my rifles). A .314 would require sizing, which may bump up the nose dia.
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6 cavity rifle molds would sell like hot cakes. Rifle molds without the crimp grove, just make it solid where the crimp is at. Get rid of the bevel bases on the pistol designs.
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.35 caliber rifle mold(s) that cast .360"; i.e., something to compete with SAECO#356 and RCBS35-200FN that would be good compromise mold(s) for the 35Rem, 358Win and 350RM... heavy emphasis on the latter two. SAECO#356 with a little more meplat and a .351” to .352” nose, perhaps. Don't scrimp on the gas check shank diameter either.
LBD
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I would like to see the Lee 30 cal 180gr. or 200gr. or 220gr. without a gas check. A 357 cal. 200gr. for pistol. And a 358 cal. 250 gr. rifle bullet.
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Something like Lyman's #257463, 75 gr., useful for squirrel hunting, turkey hunting, and plinking in cartridges like .25-20, .25-222, 250 Sav. And .22 cal.
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I agree with the idea of Lee producing molds for the 22 CF cartridges. I would love to see some 6 cavity molds resembling the 224353 and 225438.
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