This is to let every one know that the US goverment and car mfgs. are moving to end lead in wheel weights. This may happen as soon as the next 12 months.
They are replaceing lead with zinc and steel. Buy what you can, now.
Mike Circle
End of lead wheel weights
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Paul Tummers
posted this
16 October 2008
We have this problem already over here, only trucks still have lead weights for balancing.
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CB
posted this
16 October 2008
The EPA announced today that they want 90% of the lead used in industry to be removed from the environment quickly, don't know how soon that will be.
Jerry
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LeadHead
posted this
16 October 2008
Where in the h*ll does EPA think they are going to put 90% of the lead.....???
Government “people” come up with all these “pipe dream” ideas without any idea of the logistics......................................
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CB
posted this
16 October 2008
Iwill be recycling the lead in my back stop and getting all I can from other sources.
I may have to break down and buy solids.
Jerry
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Paul Tummers
posted this
17 October 2008
Where in the h*ll does EPA think they are going to put 90% of the lead.....???
Government “people” come up with all these “pipe dream” ideas without any idea of the logistics......................................
They certainly will not have it loaded in shotgun shells for Dutch hunters- also abandoned:X!!
Now they are attacking the use of zinc shot too, and are looking for alternatives for the use of zinc and lead for plummery and rain waterpipes etc.
It looks to me, they are looking for alternatives for everything over here, even for the native Duth people.
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ubetcha
posted this
17 October 2008
I work at a GM dealer service department and I have already seen steel wheel weights on the vehicles.I'm trying to hoard all the lead one I find
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Largom
posted this
07 November 2008
Went to tire shop today to get new tires for wife's SUV also got 1 1/2 buckets of WW. The shop owner told me the new wheel weights will be plastic containers filled with sand. Said he has attended seminar on installation of these weights. It would not surprise me if Gov. does'nt outlaw posession of lead.
Larry
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CB
posted this
07 November 2008
Chrysler, Wheel Weight Makers Agree to Eliminate Lead
Oakland, CA - The Center for Environmental Health (CEH) today announced it has reached a legal agreement with Chrysler and the three largest producers of automobile wheel bearing weights, requiring the companies to end the use of leaded wheel weights in California by the end of 2009. The landmark agreement marks the first-ever legally binding statewide rule phasing out lead in wheel weights in the U.S., and will end the annual release of 500,000 pounds of lead into the environment in California, which occurs when wheel weights break off of automobile wheels.
Lead isn't dead, but steel is the real deal
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Industry's still moving to get lead out of wheel weights
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Legal Action Cites Chrysler, Producers for Continuing Use of Lead-Based Wheel Weights
Oakland, CA - The Center for Environmental Health (CEH) today initiated legal action to stop the sale of lead-based wheel weights in the state of California, due to the threat of lead pollution to the state's waterways from wheel weights that fall from cars and trucks. CEH notified the major producers of wheel weights and Chrysler, a leading auto maker, that the lead-based weights are illegal under state's safe drinking water law. While other auto makers have eliminated or are moving away from the use of lead wheel weights, Chrysler continues to use the lead-polluting product for most of its new U.S. car models.
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firescout
posted this
08 November 2008
Hmmm. I might have to start combing the roadsides for casting material...
Anybody ever done that? Most of the tire shops around here are reluctant to give away used wheelweights, as they can get up to $80/bucket (5 gal) for them from recyclers.
Has anybody here ever obtained wheelweights from auto wrecking/salvage yards?
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CB
posted this
08 November 2008
I buy lead and scrap metal from a salvage yard that is about 15 minutes from my place. The price varies depending on how good of friends you are with the crew at the yard.
Beer gets the price down now and then. Not much beer, but a big price break can happen for your generousity.
Jerry
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JetMech
posted this
08 November 2008
I know there's alot of vets here. Try the auto craft shops on any post/base. I can usually get all I want with no problem.
Bill :coffee
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JetMech
posted this
09 November 2008
Yesterday I went to every tire shop in town.
Goodyear dealers were all made to sign a binding aggreement that lead WW will only be disposed of thru an authorized hazardous waste company. They can't give/sell to anyone else.
Walmart/Sams Club, Brigestone/Firestone, Goodrich, AAFES, and every other franchise have to turn in old weights to order new ones.
Independants (3 that I went to) clean, repaint and reuse them. One dealer would sell them for $90 for a 5 gal. bucket! One sold me some @ $0.50 a lb. The only reason I bought them was it was a cash deal, he weighed the box at 40# and all I had was $15. He took it. Got lucky 'cause when I weighed it later, it was actually 60#.
Farmer's Co-op - $25 / 5gal bucket.
Junk yard will sell @ $10 a bucket if I pull them. I'll be out there next weekend.
I honestly had no idea until you guys started this thread. Thanks for the heads up. Get 'um where and while you can, folks.
Bill
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Retro Fit
posted this
11 June 2009
I just bought a 5 gal. bucket of WW this afternoon. The first I'd heard of non lead WW's was when I was separating the stick-on's from the clamp-on's and noticed the shiny, light in weight, zinc coated iron ww's. About 3% of the bucket that I paid $20.00 for was the new iron ww's. Here in the peoples republic of California, I've noted a major drop in component retailers and components (primers, powder, etc.)in general as of the last few years. Now this? If I didn't know any better (which I don't) I would say that this drop in the amount of available ammo and re-loading components is being done on purpose. I find it very hard to believe that lead wheel weights dropping off passing cars could have any effect on the quality of our water supply. Am I imagining this whole thing or does anyone else see a growing problem here?
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codarnall
posted this
12 June 2009
The zinc ones are marked Zn, (wonder why) Iron ones Fe a magnet finds them in a hurry. 'A' for aluminum Al must refer to Al Gore and crowd. I trashed a batch of WW's with Zn and was so mad I diluted it in concentrated sulfuric acid to leach out the zinc. I was pissed. Total overkill but demonstrates you can't even dissolve lead in H2SO4, and the tree huggers worry about dissolving lead in water (that's H2O Al). We're screwed! --Charlie
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tturner53
posted this
12 June 2009
Retro, as a fellow Californian I also see the pattern you refer to. But it's not new. The attack against hunters and shooting sports in general has been relentless, I believe it started in earnest with the release of the movie Bambi, which dramatically changed the hunting regulations here ever since. Politics took over science. The antis will never let up, you can't stop them, you can't kill them. (I stole that line from 'Terminator'.) But we have to fight them, just as relentlessly as they fight us. According to national polls public opinion is in our court more than ever, we have to join and support the California Rifle and Pistol Association, they work hard to protect OUR rights. And if you don't belong to the NRA, you need to sign up now. Not to change the topic, but does anybody know what the penalty is for shooting a condor? Would we still have 1/3 of the state designated condor range, even though they don't occupy a fraction of that range, if there were no condors? I'm not advocating anarchy, just trying to get some input.
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ubetcha
posted this
12 June 2009
I guess that explain road kill.It must be that all those animals are just waiting along the side of the road for wheel wights to fall of of the passing vehicle so they can run out and eat them.Only they don't bother to look both ways and SPLAT:shock:
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offhand35
posted this
13 June 2009
Dollar Bill, I see your post was from last Nov.....Even last spring <2008>, I encountered the EXACT same scenario that you found, every shop was committed by contract to recyclers......I finally discovered a source of lead that as it turned out I was visiting almost every week! The only commercial range in CT also has an indoor range for 22lr only, and sells the collected range scrap for $0.12/#. After dross removal, fluxing and cleanup, yield from a 200# 5gal bucket is approx 85#. This is about 40% recovery of usable lead too soft to register on my LEE hardness scale, essentially pure lead. This was a nice Sunday afternoon's work. Now it is ready to add 1# of 95/5 tin/antimony solder per batch of 20# for handgun, or a couple #'s of foundry type to make #2 alloy for rifle. I hope I don't have to get any more creative than that for a good while.....
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GL49
posted this
13 June 2009
The tire stores have finally figured out what they have. The last one I stopped at to check for wheelweights wanted seventy-five dollars for a five gallon bucket. Who knows how much of that would already be steel or zinc. ( Or lug nuts and tire stems). Are recyclers committed to sell their weights to a specific buyer, or, how can I become a recycler?
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JetMech
posted this
13 June 2009
It looks like the price went back up. A few months ago, the spot price for scrap WW was $0.11/lb. The local tire stores still wanted $75-90 a 5gal bucket. When I told them to go ahead and sell them to their recyclers, one call back and sais $40 a bucket was fine with him!
Checking today, the spot price is $0.26/lb, so the price has more than doubled.
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corerf
posted this
13 June 2009
Yes it seems as though the end of Calif. free WW has come. And the volume of other metal mixed in the WW has tripled in the last few months. Once a law is passed in CA, it's in stone, Condors or not. Kids are eating 50 year old paint and the lead poisoning is from WW, didn't you know that?? Some xickhead in a biology dept at UC Davis or Berkely will find that there is lead still in the air and it is coming from WW disintegrating while we drive and so the WW will be gone soon. You know so much of the WW excess goes into the ocean via the storm drains and into the landfills due to tire companies disposing of the WW illegally (since there is no legitamite demand for used WW that I have been able to find... NOBODY uses used WW for ANYTHING and.... since they get no money out of them when the WW company shows up with a big green truck to pickup the old ones and sell them new ones.... Horsexhit... My good Governor is an xss and has the previous mentioned substance for brains. Once a CA law is here, well were gonna have to ressurect Howard Jarvis from the grave to get ANY law flipped. I'll start the prayer vigil today, all are invited. Gees I hate where I live. I work FOR the richest individuals in CA, they all have xhit for gray matter. It's not the money that does it to them, it's typically the more educated they are, the more they know about topics that they have not been formally educated in. You know a State without a crisis is not worth living in. I farted last week and I got flagged for terrorism due to methane release and got rousted by a liberal. Almost incarcerated. I guess a can of Bush beans might soon be on the FBI most wanted list now. So much for a good bar-B-que.
I think my salvation is in question.. I am pissed.
I appologize for the venting. I can't even spell right now, look at the above typos.
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