Reading the latest The Fouling Shot CBA magazine there's a good article about .38 Sp. ammo by Ed Harris. In it he mentions a 'bug-out bag' and his choice for ammo. It got me thinking. Maybe I need to get more organized and have a bag too. You never know. I confess I entertain myself with wild scenarios, what-ifs, and even watch zombie movies. Got a bug-out bag? What's in it? To start the ball rolling my thoughts have been I'd take my Ruger Single Six .22/.22mag. A guy can carry a lot of ammo and a .22 mag fmj will penetrate a zombie skull.
Have a 'bug-out bag"?
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My job puts me in contact with a lot of homeless people. They usually carry a sleeping bag or comforter, some clothes, and canned tamales. One woman always has suckers. In lieu of guns they carry wasp spray. Water would be heavy. I don't see them carrying water.
I have learned from them and canned tamales are my primary food on light camping trips. You can eat them hot of cold. Every dollar store sells them.
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Back in the 70''s when survival-ism was a big thing and stores that sold all sorts of gimmicks and gee-gaws sprang up all over the place I lived in Southern Ca. It was two hours from my home to get out of the LA basin If you headed any direction but South (South was out to sea. San Diego is due east of Long Beach, CA.) . If you weren't on foot when the apocalypse hit you soon would be. Just the traffic alone was mind boggling. Think about 3 million people trying to get out of the LA Basin. It is worse now. LA. effectively extends from the Ventura County line to San Diego or the Mexican Border.
Friends of mine at the time talked about what they would take with them, and I could not help but laugh at the amount and weight of the items they chose to take. Not only would a vehicle have been needed, but a couple of trailers most certainly have been necessary. They laughed at my choice of firearms: my 1911 and it's 22 rf conversion unit. As much 22 ammo as I could carry and one box of 45acp, along with food and water of course. By the way most ground water here in the USA is not really potable. I always thought that: " All I wanted to do was survive. They wanted to conquer.". Running and hiding made more sense to me than standing and fighting. Now I am too old, broken down and fat for that option. I think that I'll just stay here and kill whoever pees me off.
Oh, Rick, I am within easy walking distance of the game filled Coconino Natl. Forest, but water would get to be a real problem.
B.E.Brickey
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Strong groups of family and close friends of like goals, ideals, religion are the corner stone of making it from day to day; now and no matter what happens.
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Wow! This has lasted over 8 yrs. and it's still pulling in interesting stuff. I've dropped any bug out plans and now favor bug in. Where am I gonna go from the California Central Valley where there won't be millions of Bay Area refugees looking for a hand out? Anyway, my hats off to the guy who started this thread. He's smart.
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For the "Official Bug-Out Beer" I suggest "Irish Death" from Ellensburg, WA.
The brewery is literally one mile form my house. I'm on first name basis with the owners. Their pub used to be my hangout back when I only worked 9 hour days. Now that I'm working closer to 14 a day I don't have the time to hang there much.Great beer! They make many that I like better than QID however.
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Assuming you can find a place to bug out to for a long duration "it just hit the fan" cataclysm, you will find it much more difficult than many people think to get safe drinking water, and finding a long term food supply will be much harder than just setting traps and hunting. I'll bet there are far more wild turkey, deer, and small game in my thickly settled rural neighborhood than there are in the remote mountains near here. The best currency among the survivors will be .22lr ammo an shotgun shells. There are millions of rimfire rifles and shotguns in America, but few people have much ammo, and bartering cartridges for other needed items will be a primary means of exchange.
Steve k
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For the "Official Bug-Out Beer" I suggest "Irish Death" from Ellensburg, WA.
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Well, I could walk three miles and be in the sage brush steppe and another ten in the National Forest. But, there is no game there, and nothing to eat for the 1.5 million folks flooding over from the coast. The family stayed here in the house during Mt St. Helens and did just fine. We don't have much of a flood issue here. However we do have "Bug Out Bags" but mainly for fires and chemical / Haz-Mat evacuations. If it is the "end of the world" type thing, we have a group gathering spot where about 10 adults will consolidate with great defensive positions.
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Without a goodly supply of my heart pressure medicine, I probably wouldn't make it anyway. Guess I'll just stand in my doorway with my M1 carbine and shoot it out. Gun served me well in Vietnam.
Beagle
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I started thinking "survival" when as a kid I read "Alas Babylon" about 1960--still a great book. Some of you already see the big problem with the whole idea. Unless you already live in a fairly remote place, where are you going to bug out to? Which direction do you travel from Atlanta or any urban area, or even small town, without being in a crowd of refugees? Having lived most of my life in the mountains of western North Carolina I can tell you that unless you find a way to get in the middle of the Smokey Mountains, there are few places in the state you can get more than 10 miles from a paved road and a hoard of people. A nice fantasy, but I think best read about than attempted.
Steve k
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101 ain’t as fat as he’d have us think.
Cheers from New Zealand
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Hey all. This kinda is and kinda aint related.
I travel 4 ranches across Texas that my family owns and several we don't. I have two kids and a wife and they get real upset when we get stuck somewhere without clothes. Since my job is to keep everyone happy, I have gone to vacuume bagging clothing in batches. 1 shirt, 1 socks, etc for everyone in the family then one jacket for everyone and storing them under the back seat of my truck. If we have to stay overnight somewhere, we have clothes. If we get wet, we have dry clothes. I change them out every 3 months but let me tell ya, they have turned a rough night into a very pleasant one.
Anyone looking in to a "bug out" bag really needs to consider what is a necessity and what is a luxury. As in.... What do I need to survive the next 48 hours. Especially for me, I am too fat to run and will make great zombie jerky.
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SO! That's who stole my tub! lol GP
The pic got lost in the shuffle and I didn't remember which pic it was, so I guessed wrong.
Error now corrected. While on this topic here are a few more:
73 de KE4SKY In Home Mix We Trust From the Home of Ed's Red in "Almost Heaven" West Virginia
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My bug out kit consists of a samurai sword and a bottle of tequila.
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I'm siding with Fg1, I'm staying home. Like my Grandpa told me when I was a kid about lightning. ” It's as apt to get ya where ya is as where ya ain't” Do your best and hold your ground. GP
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Just to dust of this thread, I thought you folks would enjoy a look at my Amish neighbor's bugout vehicle. And when things get REALLY bad, you can eat the horse!
73 de KE4SKY In Home Mix We Trust From the Home of Ed's Red in "Almost Heaven" West Virginia
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Hey
I don't know about the rest of you, but I have at least a month's supply of my must have meds.
I see the most likely thing to happen in my area is the mainline railroad folks or a truck on the interstate has a hazmat spill and the city has to be cleared out for a few days.
Duane Trusty
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Bug-out-bag news flash: Sportsman's Guide has used GI Alice Packs, no frame, for under $20. Either OD or Woodland Camo. It comes with pretty good shoulder straps too. I'm not familiar with Army stuff and don't know if these would be the large or medium size. I have a large with frame already but thought for the $$ this might be good to have. They are built to last, that's for sure. Could even do as a range bag. Sometime this year I'm going to actually bug out to Nevada on my Kawasaki dualsport motorcycle, live with what I can carry in the pack, hurl some cast bullets at something with my H&R .223. Maybe eat a snake. or at least drink some snake oil, have a fire... Anyway, if you want a US made really durable pack for low dough check it out. I've seen imported packs for a lot more. ITEM# C2X-108027
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I will “bug in” where my cache of food , 'ample supplies' and warmth are. :)
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