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Alferd Packer posted this 17 October 2012

Hi-just turned 66 in Sept.Not drawing SS yet only Medicare,but getting by. Why have these idiots running this economy sent most of our scrap lead to China and managed to get all the lead mines closed in this USA? I wish enough of our people could open an undercover lead mine and sell lead on the Black Market like these Drug Dealers do. I live in IL. and that Idiot BO won't exploit the coal reserves here and in PA. A lot of people will go to work if they do.Anyway I like to cast and shoot every caliber from .22 to .458. I suppose every cal. would encompass .17 to .50 to be right, but no 17 molds out that I know of although I have a .177 Benjamin that could shoot a sized soft lead ball.Don't know if it'd be accurate, but I'd like to try.This'll do for a starter.Hi and God Bless All Here!

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Ken Campbell Iowa posted this 17 October 2012

hi... a  hearty WELCOME to you and yours !

are you saying BO smells bad ?   heh heh i like the way you think.

they say we learn from our mistakes.....hope so, that means we are on the brink of all becoming Einsteins (g).

and the first intelligence test will be to see if we have progressed far enough to fire the Chef and all his chicago thug buddies that have cooked up this rotten gruel we are being served.. 


yep, seems funny we just want to shoot lead back into the same ground it originally came from....  ashes to ashes ... and lead to lead.....

ken

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Alferd Packer posted this 18 October 2012

Thanks for the welcome,Ken. I look forward to perusing cast bullet news and comments.Steve.

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fa38 posted this 26 October 2012

Welcome Mr. Packer.  Your namesake got rid of some http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Party_%28United_States%29>Dimmycrats out in Colorado back in 1874.  We could sure use less of them at present but his method would seem a little extreme today.   From Wikipedia In November 1873, Packer was in a party of 21 men who left http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Provo,_Utah>Provo, Utah, heading for the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colorado>Colorado gold country around http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breckenridge,_Colorado>Breckenridge. On January 21, 1874 he met http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chief_Ouray>Chief Ouray, known as the White Man's Friend, near http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montrose,_Colorado>Montrose, Colorado. Chief Ouray recommended they postpone their expedition until spring, since they were likely to encounter dangerous winter weather in the mountains.<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citation_needed>citation needed> Ignoring Ouray's advice, Packer and five others left for http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gunnison,_Colorado>Gunnison, Colorado, on February 9. Besides Packer, the group was made up of Shannon Wilson Bell, James Humphrey, Frank “Reddy” Miller, George “California” Noon, and Israel Swan.<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citation_needed>citation needed> The prospectors became hopelessly lost and ran out of provisions. They were snowbound in the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rocky_Mountains>Rocky Mountains. Packer later made three confessions which differed considerably about what happened. In the last, he claimed he went scouting and came back to find Shannon Bell roasting human flesh. Bell rushed him with a hatchet, and Packer shot him. Packer claimed Bell had gone mad and murdered the others.<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citation_needed>citation needed> On April 16, 1874, Packer arrived at Los Pinos Indian Agency near Gunnison. He spent some time in a saloon in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saguache,_Colorado>Saguache, Colorado, where he met several of his original party. Packer claimed he had acted in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-defense>self-defense, but his story was not believed. According to tradition, the presiding judge, M.B. Gerry, allegedly told him:   “Stand up yah voracious man-eatin' sonofabitch and receive yir sintince. When yah came to Hinsdale County, there was siven http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Party_%28United_States%29>Dimmycrats. But you, yah et five of 'em, goddam yah. I sintince yah t' be hanged by th' neck ontil yer dead, dead, dead, as a warnin' ag'in reducin' th' Dimmycratic populayshun of this county. Packer, you http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republican_Party_%28United_States%29>Republican cannibal, I would sintince ya ta hell but the statutes forbid it.<“   In reality, what Judge Gerry told him was much more educated:    “Close your ears to the blandishments of hope. Listen not to its fluttering promises of life. But prepare to meet the spirits of thy murdered victims. Prepare for the dread certainty of death.”

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mas plumbum posted this 26 October 2012

Hi fa38, I read and researched Alferd Packer, the Colorado State Cannibal, Civil War Veteran, He joined up twice during the war, the first time being discharged for health reasons.There are many stories about that character and even a play written and performed from time to time.If you do look him up, don't accept the first one you find, because there are varied accounts and a published book about his life and times. He is as famous in Colorado as Jesse James was in Missouri. I needed a character alias for SASS early on and since everyone seemed taken, I happened on him by chance and he and I been me since about 1980.Since then I found out that at Colorado State U, The on Campus grill has such food items offered such as Lady fingers, Roast butt of young kid, and other named for cannibalistic tastes on the menus.All in honor of Alferd Packer.The dubious honor of being the only named State of Colorado official Cannibal.He was sentenced to death, but was finally released from prison and on probation became the personal guard of the Judge and became friendly with the town children, often giving them candy, while guarding the judge, he killed a few of the Judge's enemies who tried to harm the judge. This is mostly off the top of my head, but anyone can look him up, but the different sources tell differing stories, but the Cannibalism charges stuck, only because he was the only survivor, but the others apparently starving, ate each other while he went for help.So somebody ate human flesh, it's just not clear if he did.But he was convicted, on three year old evidence-badly decomposed and disturbed by wild animals to boot. He also spent gold which was carried by some of the dead-more damning evidence. As you say, Politics played a strong part then as now. I admired him for being a survivor rather than a hero.I was in the US ARMY in Vietnam,Republic of, where just being a survivor was plenty good enough for me. Any accounts of the life of Alferd Packer that differ from my recollection will not be disputed by me due to my deteriorating memory banks and a 100 years from now nobody will know the difference anyhow.All in the name of Fun. Thanks, Steve.

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mas plumbum posted this 26 October 2012

I see they listed me as mas plumbum, but I'm really started as Alferd Packer, but they wouldn't recognize me nor let me in unless I reregistered as someone else. I used my same everything, but this at&t or chrome google craziness loses my password cookie when I shut off the computer.They are anti-gun, anti-republican, and anti-me.I tried under the first name, but when the cookie is lost, you no longer exist and there's apparently no going back.

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Ken Campbell Iowa posted this 26 October 2012

hey mas...you might have your browser directions set to eat your cookies each time you leave a page... or shut off the computer ....i use firefox....not sure it is better, but i have got used to it   (g)...

ken

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mas plumbum posted this 26 October 2012

Thanks for the tip Ken. I'll check on that.

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Pigslayer posted this 28 October 2012

Hey Joe

      Don't you think that it would be more appropriate to welcome Alferd instead of insulting him? You have issues.

If someone else had of done to me what I did to myself . . . I'd have killed him. Humility is an asset. Heh - heh.

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Pigslayer posted this 28 October 2012

Welcome Alferd!!! Grab a seat & pay no attention to joeb. He's like “5 O'clock Charlie” on the show “Mash". Stick around and will be looking forward to hearing from you. Pat R.

If someone else had of done to me what I did to myself . . . I'd have killed him. Humility is an asset. Heh - heh.

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mas plumbum posted this 28 October 2012

Hi All, Pat, I'm just here to trade info about the castin and blastin. I get enough hot air off the lead melt. Thanks for the Welcome and Welcome to you too!!!. No hard feelings to joeb and I just don't care. I'm still registered to vote and then after maybe we'll see what is Really going on. I LOVE this website and soon as I can I'm joining the CBA and get the publication. Money is just real tight right now, but I'll survive.They are just now showing all the old MASH reruns and the earliest were the best. I also identify with your John Wayne quote from the Shootist. Thanks and God Bless All Here!,Steve.

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