Bear hunting

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99 Strajght posted this 15 August 2020

I have a friend that is going bear hunting with a bow this fall. I told him if all he has is a sharp stick maybe he should carry a pistol. He is going to use a 357. I loaded up some RCBS 180 cast bullets with 11.5 grain of H110 for about 1100FPS. Do you think that is fast enough for bear with 180 grain cast?

 

Thank You Glenn

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Ken Campbell Iowa posted this 15 August 2020

... don't forget to subtract the velocity of the shooter as he departs from the location of the irritated bear ...    hopefully the sharp stick in the bear will catch on the underbrush ...

ken

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GP Idaho posted this 15 August 2020

The size and power of the round carried should match the size of the bear your friend might encounter. Bears can be pretty tough creatures. I would say that the load your building should be ok for a medium sized black bear. I would feel better about a 44mag or a heavy hot 45 Colt in a Ruger Blackhawk For an extra large Black or a brown bear. In the case of a Brown even those might leave your friend under gunned. Gp

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Glaciers posted this 15 August 2020

GP Idaho has it right in my book.  But a 357 with 180 grain soft points, not hollow points, and correct placement is key.  The 357 penetrates quite well.  Break bones, preferably the skull.  If you shoot a bear in the paw with a 44, while you used enough gun, you need to be able to put the shot where it counts.

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Ross Smith posted this 15 August 2020

The State of Idaho has a good program about bears that they show at different gatherings. In that display is the skull of a grizzly bear of known age  and identity. There is a 44 caliber jacketed bullet imbedded in the jaw bone of the bear. The bear died of old age!

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Glaciers posted this 15 August 2020

Ross that's a serious thing that can happen.  Grizzlies and Brownies are a different breed of cat.  But I sure would you prefer a sixgun over a sharp stick anyway.  A good penetrating round in the right place will usually do the trick. But, in the heat and the speed of a confrontation, things often go wrong.  One friend of mine commonly hunted black bears with a 44.  Use to take 3 a season, Bob and his big family liked wild game.  He would usually get bear, moose, and a couple of caribou each year and squeeze that next to the salmon.  He had been doing the Bears for years with the 44.  One time I talked to Bob in the spring one year he was a little shaken talking about his recent hunt.  It took all six chambers to put down the black bear, with the sixth at his feet.  Most of the Bears here are 250 to a 350 unusual to be bigger.  He said that he was off with his first shot and it went down hill from there.

Another friend who now lives down in Valdez was hunting out on the northern west coast for grizzly and when in whatever village he was in a woman asked him to kill this darn bear that was creating a problem.  She said it was the same bear her son had shot in the entrance way of the cabin.  Seems that the lad reach out with a handgun an shot the bear in the head, point blank.  So Ken went out to the village dump and had a look around, nothing.  Well looking around the village and widening the search Ken ran across the likely bear.  Upon skinning the skull later on there was a lead slug right between the eyes where that little groove starts for a short ways.  When Ken related the story to me I was skeptical.  So he had just moved, still in boxes, but he found the box with the skull.  There was a slug mushroomed perfectly between the eyes but up a tad.  It was stuck fast.  

So my preference when out where a critter with teeth and claws that might object to your presents, is always a handy, fast (read short) rifle of reason power of 35 caliber and up.  

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GP Idaho posted this 15 August 2020

As there was no mention of the area that was being hunted in the OP one has to think of the chance of a Grizzly encounter.  Alaska, Montana, Wyoming and very rarely in Idaho mostly on the far eastern areas. Black bears here in Idaho aren't usually aggressive with the exception of sows with cubs. A good sized black bear can very dangerous when wounded. Seems like every year one hears of a hunt going very wrong. On Morres creek between Boise and Idaho City a hunter was badly mauled and he was hunting with a 45-70. Again, shot placement is very important with dangerous critters.Gp

 

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Ross Smith posted this 17 August 2020

GP is right, shot placement is all important. That was actually what I was cautioning about. My grand father used to carry a .32 acp, now that is really under gunned.

 

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tony1960 posted this 17 August 2020

Plenty big enough down here, hell even a sharp stick would do.....Image result for koala bear australia

 

Tony

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offhand35 posted this 23 August 2020

Some locations don't permit the carrying of a firearm while bowhunting. I presume this has been checked out.

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99 Strajght posted this 23 August 2020

I think the Non Sequitur bears made that up.

Glenn

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