California Lead Bullet Ban AB 3071

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hanover67 posted this 13 March 2020

The California legislature has underway an addendum to the state penal code outlawing the use of lead bullets at all shooting ranges. You can google AB 3071 and read the proposal. In my opinion it is based on sweeping generalizations about lead's toxicity and the assertion that there are plenty of non-lead bullets out there. California has already banned the use of lead bullets for hunting in part of the state to save the California Condor, so it is not beyond the possibility that this new, misguided regulation might be enacted.

To me, it would mean the death of bullet casting, reloading and even shooting. I plan to write my government officials and the California Rifle and Pistol Association, NRA, and Shooting Sports Association. hoping they can marshal opposition to this bill in Sacramento. If you live in California, I urge you to do the same.

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David Reiss CBA Membership Director posted this 14 March 2020

One of the NRA board members is a member of my private range. I will pass this on to him. 

But you are always welcome to move to Texas, we have room!

David Reiss - NRA Life Member & PSC Range Member Retired Police Firearms Instructor/Armorer
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RicinYakima posted this 14 March 2020

But you are always welcome to move to Texas, we have room!

I almost called you a prevaricator Dave, until I did my research. There is room is West Texas with a density of less then 10 per square mile. Do you have a state income tax?

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dualsport posted this 14 March 2020

The lead ban for hunting covers the whole state. No lead period. The pretense of a health concern is comedy. Imagine you had the power to seriously jack up people you despise. That’s who’s in control here. They hate us. We fight back mainly through the CRPA. There’s a chance we can defeat this bill. Tim Turner aka dualsport. I’m up to 7 motorcycles now

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joeb33050 posted this 14 March 2020

The Eustis Gun Club has lead removed from berms every ?? years. Last year the contractor removed and paid for > 70 tons.

70 tons? He paid!

joe b.

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joeb33050 posted this 14 March 2020

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joeb33050 posted this 14 March 2020

My Win69A with a hole in the barrel has had a scope on it. I thought the gas, 22lr, was blowing off the black finish on the scope. Wrong, it appears  that the gas has lead vapor in it, the lead deposits can be scraped off, leaving the black finish. Lead vapor as the 22lr is fired. Whooda thunk?

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John Alexander posted this 15 March 2020

I used to have a High Standard Supermatic with ports to reduce muzzle rise.  It would fill up with lead deposits that would eventually affect accuracy and had to be dug out.  Fairly solid as I remember.

John

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RicinYakima posted this 15 March 2020

Powder gases are about 4000 degrees Fahrenheit, every 0.001" of gap between the bullet and barrel allow 50,000 gas molecules blow by shoulder to shoulder. This is also the reason revolver cylinder faces get lead deposits.

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David Reiss CBA Membership Director posted this 15 March 2020

But you are always welcome to move to Texas, we have room!

I almost called you a prevaricator Dave, until I did my research. There is room is West Texas with a density of less then 10 per square mile. Do you have a state income tax?

No state income tax, lots of land, friendly people and lots of guns. We have open carry, but no one does, just concealed.

Think about this: the city of Houston is over 2.7 million people (third largest behind New York and L,A,) , it is 669 sq. miles, but the Houston Police Department has only a little over 5,000 officers. 

How do they do it: take no bs and good people.

David Reiss - NRA Life Member & PSC Range Member Retired Police Firearms Instructor/Armorer
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- Also deal in: Land, Banjos, Nails, Firearms, Manure, Fly Swatters, Used Cars, Whisky, Racing Forms, Rare Antiquities, Lead, Used Keyboard Keys, Good Dogs, Pith Helmets & Zulu Headdresses. .

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RicinYakima posted this 15 March 2020

I was thinking more about Stratford or Dalhart. I don't know that I could live below 1500 feet? Maybe Lubbock. I stayed a couple of weeks in Roswell, NM, and really liked it. Half the people in the park were from Houston or Dallas escaping the heat of September.   Ric

p.s. Houston PD has had a good rep for more than 50 years when I started in LE.

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David Reiss CBA Membership Director posted this 15 March 2020

I was just giving Houston as an example. Texas has everything that all the other states have, but I haven't lived in Houston for more than 40 years. Too crowded, too many traffic lights and too many liberals. But again its a big state. 

David Reiss - NRA Life Member & PSC Range Member Retired Police Firearms Instructor/Armorer
-Services: Wars Fought, Uprisings Quelled, Bars Emptied, Revolutions Started, Tigers Tamed, Assassinations Plotted, Women Seduced, Governments Run, Gun Appraisals, Lost Treasure Found.
- Also deal in: Land, Banjos, Nails, Firearms, Manure, Fly Swatters, Used Cars, Whisky, Racing Forms, Rare Antiquities, Lead, Used Keyboard Keys, Good Dogs, Pith Helmets & Zulu Headdresses. .

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Brodie posted this 17 March 2020

Or, Rick, you could move to Arizona, plenty of state and federal land to hunt and fish on.  Cities as large as Phoenix and Tucson if you require that sort of thing.  We have legal concealed carry and open carry, no magazine restrictions.  Lots of elk , deer, javelina, and small game as well as trout, bass, walleyes, catfish, and pike to hunt and fish for.  We are a great state.

B.E.Brickey

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Ken Campbell Iowa posted this 17 March 2020

stay away from Roswell NM ... i saw a documentary movie on netflix ... there are space aliens living there ... not as many as Warshington DC but still ...

 

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cfp4570 posted this 18 March 2020

My mom lived in Northern Arizona for several years, I really liked that area. Living in the people's republic of Illinois, Arizona looks better all the time.

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RicinYakima posted this 18 March 2020

brodie, I really like the Alpine, Springville and St. Johns area. Flagstaff was nice, but too big of city for an old country boy from the desert. But it is a dream, as the wife will never move away from the grandkids and soon great grandkids.

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Brodie posted this 18 March 2020

Rick,

I understand.  We moved here in 2000 because my wife wanted to be closer to her mother.  Now two of my three grandkids are trapped in Ca.  At least they are in Orange county.

B.E.Brickey

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mashburn posted this 19 March 2020

Hello in California,

You're welcome to move to Oklahoma any time you wish, but if you don't like the freedom of  Constitutional  carrying either concealed or carrying openly you probably wouldn't like it here  You don't have to wait to buy a handgun or have a special permit for one either..Also if you don't like conservative REPUBLICANS you won't be happy here. If you agree with this; plus being free, come on, we will welcome you. Bye the way, it's not near as much fun to carry now that it is legal without a permit as it was when you had to have a concealed carry permit. I carried illegally for years, was caught carrying but was always told by the law enforcers to go on and get that thing out of sight.

Mashburn.

David a. Cogburn

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mashburn posted this 19 March 2020

Hello Ken Campbell,

Your sense of humor continues to keep me laughing. Keep it up please. You may have missed your calling-possibly you should have been a stand up comedian.

Mashburn

David a. Cogburn

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RicinYakima posted this 19 March 2020

Sorry Mashburn, but OK has chiggers, bugs and it rains there. I like sand, scorpions and sun, had enough green stuff in RVN. laughing

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RicinYakima posted this 19 March 2020

This is what I am used to looking at;

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