John Alexander wrote: Joe sez: “Here's the deal.Savage 223 bbls shoot cb's inaccurately."===== Have been a little tied up with moving 3,700 miles and having the movers lose my computer but before Joe brings the unified field theory of 22 cast bullets down from one of those Florida mountains on a clay tablet I thought I should speak up.

Between 2000 and about 2010 I shot four different Savage 223s in CBA nationals and postal matches. The group postal matches were usually either a little under or a little over 1” for the four five shot groups. I was managing the nationals during those years and usually was shooting from half cocked or not at all so they are worse. I was shooting 75 and 85 grain bullets similar to the NOE 22780SP for the whole period.

All four of the rifles involved had a loose area roughly in the middle third of the bore and a “choke” in the last inch or so just as the barrel did that Joe sent me to bore scope and slug. I don't know if that is relevant or not.  I did get frustrated with the fouling in the loose spot and finally went to another brand rifle but saying that Savage 223s won't shoot cast bullets at or near the 1MOA level is at least premature.

It ain't premature, John. It's 6+ years of trying, thousands of dollars worth of equipment, molds from the wizards, tens of thousands of shots, 8 barrels and not a single person other than you with success in accurate Savage 223 shooting. Not a farking one has responded here except hrafnagel whose groups look as bad as mine. Alternatively, Savage 22-250 barrels, 5 out of 6, were EASY to get shooting accurately. Simple, fast, no magic, no chamber casts, no wizard bullets, no concern for the ball seat or leade, or throat or cartridge size, no alloy hardness measurement. No crap, and <1.5” 5 shot 5 group averages are there.

It ain't premature, John.  

John