Hi Guys
First post here. I wonder if someone has or can point me to a numbers chart of old ideal molds. I just opened a box with 10 or so Ideal molds that my father had stored away. All the molds just say ideal. No lyman, The numbers on the molds I thinks are the caliber and grain size. I need to know how to read them since they are going up on ebay in a few days. I would appreciate it if anyone has some answers.
Thanks
John
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John
Go on e-bay and bid on a copy of Handbook of Cast Bullets. This will list Ideal and Lyman mold numbers. Older than this 1958 manual you would have to buy the number series of the Ideal Handbook which also shows up for sale on E-bay. I would start with number 38. If you are going for a quick sell on e-bay just list the 6 digit number for example 225 462 or 311 467. The identical 3 digit match up numbers on each mold half mean nothing to a buyer except that the halves match. An e-bay buyer needs the 6 or 5 digit numbers to know what you are selling. The guys buying on e-bay will figure what you have and what it is worth.
Stephen Perry
Angeles BR:fire
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offpiste,
The ideal number system is based on the first three numbers being the nomial size of the bullet, the next series of numbers, one, two or three digits, is the “cherry” number used to cut the mould chamber. There may also be a separate set of numbers on the bottom of the moulds that are they same for each half, these are to keep the mould blocks togather.
If you wish to PM me the numbers, and there is anything I can use, maybe we can work out a deal and save you the trouble of ebaying them.
Ric
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Hi Guys
First post here. I wonder if someone has or can point me to a numbers chart of old ideal molds. I just opened a box with 10 or so Ideal molds that my father had stored away. All the molds just say ideal. No lyman, The numbers on the molds I thinks are the caliber and grain size. I need to know how to read them since they are going up on ebay in a few days. I would appreciate it if anyone has some answers.
Thanks
John
This will have most, if not all of them. I sure hope this link works.
If that link doesn't work, click on “Bullet Mould or Molds” at the top of this page, then click on “Lyman Ideal vintage", and then click the link in the third post. Jim
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Hey thanks guys for the info I really appreciate it.
and jimkim your link is to your hardrive not the net.
Woops
JOhn
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Anybody know what cartridge the Ideal 358-500 was intended for?
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Here's a link to the thread I was talking about. I hope.
http://www.castbulletassoc.org/viewtopic.php?id=4368&forumid=10
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Thanks jk, I've seen the mold on the chart. What I'm trying to find out now is what cartridge it was used in. Obviously it's something in .358/.357, but it's an odd bullet and I thought it may have been for something specific. I have the mold, from an old collection I bought way back, want to try it in something. Ideal 358-500
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Thanks jk, I've seen the mold on the chart. What I'm trying to find out now is what cartridge it was used in. Obviously it's something in .358/.357, but it's an odd bullet and I thought it may have been for something specific. I have the mold, from an old collection I bought way back, want to try it in something. Ideal 358-500
After doing a brief search I recalled this oddity. Gascheck comes to mind.
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offpiste,
The Lyman 358500 is the Jim Harvey design from the 1950's. It was made to have a zinc washer inserted into the mold and a pure lead bullet poured around it. The '500 was a 135 grain SWC made to be shot as cast. It was made prior to the sale of jacket pistol bullets.
The purpose was to have the zinc washer scrap out the leading of the bullet passing through the barrel. It worked but was a pain to make. Also zinc washers are not longer available in proper sizes, as that is what Harvey sold.
HTH, Ric
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Hi All Thanks for all the great info. If anyone is interested I have 8 ideal molds up for sale in fleabay. Do a search for my ebay name “vidbiz".
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One of the Lyman handbooks has a history of their mould numbering scheme. Unfortunately I don't remember which handbook has it.
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One of the Lyman handbooks has a history of their mould numbering scheme. Unfortunately I don't remember which handbook has it.
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One of the Lyman handbooks has a history of their mould numbering scheme. Unfortunately I don't remember which handbook has it.
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Thanks for the help guys. Maybe I can find a substitute for that zinc washer or get lucky and find some. What the hell, I'll cast some without the washer and see what happens. This bullet has no lube grooves, maybe the slot for the washer will hold some lube.
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Thanks jk, I've seen the mold on the chart. What I'm trying to find out now is what cartridge it was used in. Obviously it's something in .358/.357, but it's an odd bullet and I thought it may have been for something specific. I have the mold, from an old collection I bought way back, want to try it in something. Ideal 358-500
Try knurling the bullets and using either LLA or JPW.
"Knurling; lay a boolit on a flat surface, take a rough cut file, lay it across the boolit and with a bit of downward pressure, roll it for a short distance.
This method should apply a small amount of knurling to the boolit and is adjustable for desired affect.”
From the looks of the one on
Maybe you could try a copper or brass washer.
There is a guy on eBay selling zinc gaschecks. http://cgi.ebay.com/9MM-38-Caliber-Pure-ZINC-Gas-Checks-1000W0QQitemZ220272545559QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLHDefaultDomain0?hash=item3349444f17&trksid=p4634.c0.m14.l1262
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Thanks again for the help guys, I appreciate it. Found the guy on ebay, wants $26 plus shipping for a thousand. Sounds fair to me, what the hell, I'll try 'em. That mold has been sitting in the drawer for 20 years! Time to get it out and play. Anybody know any more history on these bullets? Were they “successful"?
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John Taffin writes about the bullets in GUN Digest: Book of the 44. You can read a little of it here. http://books.google.com/books?id=VDCkAoN1pBQC&pg=PA256&lpg=PA256&dq=Harvey%27s+Prot-X-Bore+molds&source=bl&ots=K-RKw0GNFm&sig=hN3moK0GMy2NkzOWH0An5HpEeHo&hl=en&ei=B-59So3SJsKOtgf26sjoAQ&sa=X&oi=bookresult&ct=result&resnum=1#v=onepage&q=Harvey%27s%20Prot-X-Bore%20molds&f=false
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A little more on the zinc washers. By coincidence I stumbled across a magazine article in Sept. 'Guns' magazine about Civil War guns. According to the story there was a zinc-based bullet designed by a guy named Williams packed in each package of minie ball paper cartridges, It's purpose was to scrape out any lead deposits.That was around 150 yrs. ago! For those of you who might know, I don't need to worry about the zinc washers damaging my barrel, right? EDIT: I just noticed the magazine is from 2006. Got it off the “widow's” table at the club. Some great stuff turns up on that table for sale.
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John, I've got a Lyman Cast Bullet Handbook dated 1973 that list them all. Not sure if a newer book will. I'm looking for a 266455.
Brent
Because I said so!
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I just ordered a mold chart on ebay for $3.50, shipping $1.50. do a search under bullet mould, not bullet mold
Because I said so!
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