cast bullets for Hunting

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buffalord posted this 31 July 2009

I am trying to find good bullets for hunting ones that will mushroom and also get good pentration. Were having trouble with our wheelweight bullets just going straight through and not doing much damage.

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hunterspistol posted this 31 July 2009

http://www.hollowpointmold.com>http://www.hollowpointmold.com

http://lbtmoulds.com/>http://lbtmoulds.com/

http://www.ranchdogmolds.com/>http://www.ranchdogmolds.com/ -and these guys do hunt!

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crash87 posted this 01 August 2009

buffalord, You really don't give to many, or any details, on what your shooting your WW bullets out of or what they are at all. I've found different alloys to work better in different firearms, bullets,ranges, etc as far as getting expansion. Also, in some bullet designs I really don't need, nor want expansion.

I'm sure like myself there are many on here who have did expansion testing with certain alloys at certain velocities, etc etc. What specifically are you looking for. Crash87

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JSH posted this 01 August 2009

ditto to crash 87 Really sounds to me like more of the wrong design than an alloy issue. I would guess you are speaking of deer for the most part? A white tail is not that hard to kill. Angle shot breaking a front shoulder and going through the lungs, they won't go far. Even if your angle is through the ribs/lungs and break an off side shoulder. If it is a through and through shot and no blood trail, ya need a bigger caliber to make a larger hole. I have seen some of the soft nosed CB's using dead soft for the nose. We have shot a few and they have stayed together (wet phone books) way tougher than a whitetail hide. Some say it is a PITA and not worth it. It's not like a body would shoot more than 100 of these in a year. IMHO a soft nose in a 35 cal is as small as I would go that route. 30 and under I would look at a an LBT style flat nose. Read a bit. A good CB projectile can work as well as a FLGC. BUT, they don't usually work the same way. jeff

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buffalord posted this 01 August 2009

I appreciate the help guys I havent been hunting with cast bullets to long have killed one doe with my 38-55 it worked fine on it but hasent worked great on hogs. I have a shooting buddy who has killed several deer with a 44-40 But he is having trouble bring down deer with 30cal bullets but i think he is using the wrong bullet it is designed for siluhet shooting. This season i am going to use my 45-70 with 300GR. and see what it does.

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JSH posted this 01 August 2009

I would think the 38-55/375WW to be an excellent hog getter? What seems to be the issue.Just curious as i had thought mine would be a good one with a 260-275 cast bullet. I have yet to shoot a hog with a 45-70 but it is on my todo list. I would opt for a 405 with a good large flat nose. A good shoulder hit, I think would take the fight out of one? Jeff

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ubetcha posted this 02 August 2009

As I understand things,for hunting with cast bullets you need a design with the flatest nose you can find.I have looked at pictures from Lee and Veral Smith and both have large frontal bullets.The flat nose produces more hydrulic shock and doesn't just slip through.The lee bullet is the 310gr 44mag and getting intouch with Veral will help with choosing his design.

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buffalord posted this 31 August 2009

I appreciate the help guys from what all of you have said and from what i have seen the 30cal. is just alittle small for hogs. Since i started this discussion i had a shooting budy hit 2 hogs with a 30 cal. cast and he never could find a blood trail.

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CB posted this 31 August 2009

buffalord

Crack those hogs with a 44 mag rifle or a .454 Cassul rifle and all you'll have to do is walk over roll him over.

Stephen Perry

Angeles BR:fire

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CB posted this 06 September 2009

Ruarks Rule: Use enough gun. The “30 cal” information is not enough for troubleshooting. Which bullet, what alloy, at what speed, and at what distance? This information would be more likely to get you the answers you need. For all we know, you buddys trying to kill hogs with a 30 carbine with round nosed bullets.

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giorgio de galleani posted this 06 September 2009

I am using 45/70 Marlins with a Veral Smith 400 grains wide flat nose bullets.

Around 1400 fps,they are enough guns.

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giorgio de galleani posted this 06 September 2009

More booty.

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giorgio de galleani posted this 06 September 2009

Pig tracks in the snow.

Pig season will begin on september 30th for me.

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giorgio de galleani posted this 06 September 2009

Here's the track,

I hope.

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giorgio de galleani posted this 06 September 2009

Sorry,The machine is not accepting the track picture.

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giorgio de galleani posted this 06 September 2009

Last try .

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big boar posted this 06 September 2009

35 Whelen using a Veral Smith LBT 250gr Flat nose on deer from 50-150yds gave GREAT performance and I highly recommend the design. Also using a 450 Marlin RCBS (I really have to get another LBT bullet for this thought the RCBS does a good job)the performance was superb. I've not tried a 30 cal yet but think this year I should try it with a 303British. I remember reading some articles by F Marshall and he always said to use a long (heavy) bullet in the 30's, heavy being 200gr or heavier.

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tturner53 posted this 07 September 2009

Buffalo George, thanks for the pics. I find them inspirational. I'm looking forward to more. I've used a 45-70 on a hog but it was at very close range(12") and anything would have worked. The hard 405 gr. bullet entered by the ear and went straight down and out the bottom of the foot. It was a lucky shot as I was trying to get out of the way when I fired. tt

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hunterspistol posted this 07 September 2009

Good Luck with pig season this year, Giorgio!:dude:

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giorgio de galleani posted this 07 September 2009

This one is a young male ,a yearling of around 60-80 pounds,a teen ager already wearing black fur,while the red beast of the previous picture was stiil in pediatric age . I shot him at no more than 10 yards with a 44 magnum marlin carbine,a 310 gr Lee gas check bullet at 1800 chronographed feet per second.

I broke his right humerus shattering the bone,the bullet exited from his armpit ad did not enter the toracic cavity,it was just got lost in the snow.

I was present at the post mortem,executed by Giovanni La Rosa a mason( he actually build houses,not the secret sosiety),who is happy to have a real MD as his assistant.

I suspect that this lack of straight line penetration,one of the plus factors of the 44 mag pistol cartridge is caused by the carbine's slow twist,around 1-38 compared with the 1-18 twist of the revolvers.

The poor animal rolled down the very steep hillside and stopped a few feet out of sight from me.

I stood still and radioed the hillibilly dog driver,who arrived in short time and finished and collected the prey.

I left the 44 in the gun room and pressed into service the 45/70.

The boar season ended in a couple of weeks,but I had extra confidence with my

old reliable obsolete black powder gun.

I would be glad to hear from users of 44 mag in handguns and in carbines.