Alox Pancakes

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OU812 posted this 13 March 2018

I am wanting to try strait Lee Alox in the Lube-A-Matic. So I dried some on non- stick aluminum foil. I poured the liquid alox on non stick foil and flat surface to let air dry. After a couple of days the alox can be peeled off foil like a flexible rubber pancake. Cut alox with a rolling pizza cutter then roll into tube shape much like hollow lube stick.

Use oversize die to lube driving bands and lube groove. 

 

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OU812 posted this 13 March 2018

I found out I could not roll up the alox, but had to tear into small pieces to put into Lube-A-Matic. I believe heating the alox sheet in the sun would make it more pliable and easy to roll. The alox flows really easy while lubing bullets and does not need heat.

I once hand dip bullets, let air dry base first on wax paper, then size (big mess). Using the alox in the lube-a-matic  makes job lots easier.

Accuracy always seemed good using strait alox (no wax blended in). More testing needed to be more sure.

 

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OU812 posted this 14 March 2018

The type of lube and and how much is used is just as important as good bullet fit. Here I lubed 50 bullets with alox. 25 were lubed in gas check shank area only and 25 were lubed in both lube groove and gas check shank. These will be shot as pictured using 6.5 grains of Titegroup powder and sized .2257. I am sure less lube will be more accurate, but for how many shots?

When I first throated the rifle (.2245 reamer) to accept the LBT style bullet a .225 diameter bullet was too large and would not chamber into throat. Now (500 shots later) the bullets are sized .2257 and will chamber with slight resistance into throat. Talking about erosion...

Bullets were sized and Hornady gas check seated nose first in the Lee die, next bullets were lubed in Lube-A-Matic using .001 oversize die. Alloy is soft.

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OU812 posted this 15 March 2018

Off topic: Our dogs like beef jerky. The Gray one is a rescue. The White one was found running the streets.

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BigMan54 posted this 15 March 2018

They'll need extra water to wash all that salt outa there systems. When I was a kid, back in the stone age if we gave the dogs HERSHEY'S kisses or beef jerky, BOY HOWDY did we get SMACKED. 

Long time Caster/Reloader, Getting back into it after almost 10yrs. Life Member NRA 40+yrs, Life S.A.S.S. #375. Does this mean a description of me as a fumble-fingered knuckle-draggin' baboon. I also drool in my sleep. I firmly believe that true happiness is a warm gun.

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OU812 posted this 15 March 2018

I know salt and hershey's is bad for pets. I just gave her and him a very small piece jerky. 

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Brodie posted this 15 March 2018

When I was young I was told by my Aunt that giving chocolate to dogs would give them worms.  Asking how this could be when it didn't give humans worms got me smacked.

There is a whole list of "dietary" no no's for canines; including how many grapes will kill your dog.  Our poodle has so far eaten two two to two and a half pound bags of grapes (he stole them out of the sink).  The poodle is still alive and kicking shedding dirt wherever he goes like Charles Schultz's  "Pigpen". 

The only sensible thing about that no feed list for dogs that I ever heard make any sense was my Vet:  "Feeding that crap adds calories to the dogs diet beyond what their balanced food gives them.  This puts weight on the animal which is bad for them."

B.E.Brickey

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jimkim posted this 15 March 2018

Have thought about using the type of Alox they're using to make 50/50? I think there is a solid Alox available too. You may be able to get it from Lee, if you call them.

http://lsstuff.com/store/index.php?mainpage=productinfo&cPath=2&productsid=20

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OU812 posted this 15 March 2018

I had a few bottles of the Lee alox laying around. If the alox works better in my case I my buy some from lsstuff.

The empty Lee alox bottle should work good as bore solvent bottle at range. I have not tested for leaks. 

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OU812 posted this 19 March 2018

The dried alox does work in the Lube-A-Sizer but is a tad too thin. Adding a little bees wax would help to thicken. Hobby Lobby sells Bees wax for candle making that is much harder than softer privately sold versions.

Using more alox shot a little more accurate. I hate confused gouping like this (good shifting groups).

I will try the bumped bullets next test and will post good or bad results.frown

 

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R. Dupraz posted this 19 March 2018

Did I miss the cartridge, twist, whose ;mold and distance the targets were shot?

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OU812 posted this 19 March 2018

223 Remington, Remington 700 VS 1-12 twist throated per LBT specs(.2245), LBT 60 graing bullet. Shot at 100 yards (isn't 100 the standard?) I never understood why people would post 50 yard groups.

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R. Dupraz posted this 19 March 2018

Thanks. Depends on what they are shooting

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OU812 posted this 20 March 2018

I added bees wax (25 percent by weight) to the alox. Thickening the strait alox with wax helps it work better in the Lube-A-Matic. The thinner strait alox would cause the stem inside die to move downward under pressure and cause lube to fill between base of bullet and stem.

Strait alox is more difficult to remove from Lube-A-Matic. Adding a little wax helps lube drain easier when heated in oven.

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OU812 posted this 23 March 2018

So far bumping did not help the LBT bullet using 6.5 grains of Titegroup.  The 45-45-10 tumble lube does well. So much to try

I briefly tried 13 grains of H4198 and this load shot best (9 bhn alloy)

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OU812 posted this 31 March 2018

These inconsistent groups were shot using softer annealed Hornady gas checks. I will go back to the standard thicker Gator check that I had better luck with. 

 

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