Any out there that have resized certain lots of cast bullets that were sized before and set for years. Better results or not. Will expound on this later.
Stephen Perry
Angeles BR:fire
Any out there that have resized certain lots of cast bullets that were sized before and set for years. Better results or not. Will expound on this later.
Stephen Perry
Angeles BR:fire
Attached Files
Today I used a new .243 diameter Lyman H&I die to resize a hundred or so Cast and sized 245496 already sized greased. I am going to load them up in my 6X45 for next Friday's shooting. I have a 1/10 mic I use for measuring the bearing surfaces before and after sizing. The overall bullet DIA. after my sizing but now the bullets measure the same from one end to the other on the bearing surface. I have no History on the bullets. I wouldn't waste my time too much shooting other guys Cast unless I do the final sizing. In BR jacketed bullet making I deal in 1/10's, I can do the same in Cast. This story has no ending just a pause once in a while.
Stephen Perry
Angeles BR:fire
Attached Files
How did you pick the diameter to size your bullets to and did you check out the diameter of your sizing die?
What throat angle do you have in your rifle?
Guess I have a couple of more questions: What powder are you using and how did you select it, also approximate velocity if you can estimate it.
Attached Files
Bill
Let me answer your questions after next Friday at the Range.
Stephen Perry
Angeles BR:fire
Attached Files
I am listening/watching this, as the 6x45 is a favorite of mine in an XP100. However I am shooting full length gaschecks as I push them fairly hard. This is from afellow that swore he would never own a 45ACP nor cast for anything smaller than a 308. jeff
Attached Files
Tell me what you did to your bullets before you loaded them up.
Shooting them is the easy part. All the prep work before loading them is the biggest part.
Attached Files
It's Sunday. I'm interested in hearing the results from your Friday at the range.
I suspect: your twist rate was too slow and your throating angle was too steep for starters.
And...potentially your bullets were too soft.
Attached Files
Bill
We lost our local Range last Thursday so I chose to go to another Range that I shot only on occasion before. I left my cast gun home for a week shooting my 6 PPC Sporter instead.This week I will shoot my 6x45 Cast and my 6 PPC jacketed HV gun. Will give report on the 6x45 next weekend.
Stephen Perry
Angeles BR:fire
Attached Files
Stephen, Why don't you post your results on this thread? I'd like to see them and critique them for you. For starters your twist rate is too slow unless you want to use monotype and really crank the velocity up.
Attached Files
Warner
Nobody especially you critiques anything I do at the Shooting Range. You Post something about load development so I can ask you the multiple, shotgun approach questions like you ask me. And do you compete in CBA BR Matches, I'd like to know.
Stephen Perry
Angeles BR:fire:fire
Attached Files
:coffee The short answers:
While brass work hardens and needs to be annealed, as you've seen in benchrest jacketed, lead does quite the opposite. By sizing twice, the cast lead is likely work-softened. In cast an oversize bullet isn't tragic, they should measure .002” larger than the bore.
You may not want to shoot them.
Attached Files
Hunter
Thanks. I might have made a mistake in resizing already sized bullets. I have over a thousand of these 245486 sized and lubed. The gentleman said his brother cast and sized all the bullets 6-7 years ago. I feel he used a .243 sizing die as my measurements reflect that. I have about 50 of the bullets I sized in my .243 die left. I will order a .244 sizing die from Midway. I'll shoot the remaning .243 diameter bullets up and try some of the deceased brothers sized and some of the ones I size out my mold. I have time to find what works for me. Thanks again Hunter you have helped me several times here.
Stephen Perry
Angeles BR:fire
Attached Files
Mr. Perry, hunterspistol has given some good advice regarding resizing bullets. Cast bullets perform better slightly over groove diameter, undersize or too soft will cause leading as well. Nasty business.
We are all here to help each other in our cast bullet shooting endeavors, I imagine billwnr in his own way is also trying to help you.
I personally don't believe one has to be a BR shooter in order to have the knowledge to shoot well with cast bullets. But thats just my opinion.
roadie
Attached Files
I personally don't believe one has to be a BR shooter in order to have the knowledge to shoot well with cast bullets. But thats just my opinion.
roadie Your opinion's right on the money. Critiquing is different from criticizing so lets keep our heads about us.
Attached Files
Roadie
Considering I have been called an idiot here and a dangerous handloader by the same person also my 47 years of Cast have been in the toilet several times I feel some need for redemption. As far as your BR statement I could give a damn about Cast BR. I was mailed a years worth of the secret society of Cast BR by a concerned soul no name coming forward. Doesn't impress me one bit. I cast for my pleasure and I do a pretty damn good job at it. My Sport is jacketed BR and always will be.
But thanks for the concern some have for my passion for casting and shooting lead bullets I appreciate that, good guys. I will join CBA for the casting portion only not the BR portion.
Stephen Perry
Angeles BR:fire
Attached Files
Now I'm confused. What will you do with the cast bullets you make? Also, the guy who called you an idiot told me to tell you he apologizes for his inappropriate remark.
Attached Files
Warner
Nobody especially you critiques anything I do at the Shooting Range. You Post something about load development so I can ask you the multiple, shotgun approach questions like you ask me. And do you compete in CBA BR Matches, I'd like to know.
Stephen Perry
Angeles BR:firefire
As a matter of fact I do compete in the CBA BR and military matches. Wally's sent me a few certificates for military national records.
And... if you were a bit smarter you'd know that when I said your twist rate was too slow unless you want to use monotype and crank the velocity up that it was a very good tip I gave you. For a 14 inch twist barrel you need a high velocity bullet and for a high velocity bullet you need a very high BHN for that bullet. Otherwise the bullet will slide and cause leading as it goes down the barrel. Sorta like cabbage on a sauerkraut cutter.
Attached Files
Bill Warner 200Yard-high score-Individual Target- Modified Scope
100-7X
March 8, 2008
Puyallup, WA
The Cast Bullet Association Official Military Rifle National Records
December 15, 2008
Attached Files
Okay guys this is enough of this foolishness.
Having a disagreement on the topic is one thing, but this is past the point of that.
We do not need to assault one anothers character here to have a worthwhile discussion.
I trust that all involved can find a better way to discuss this sensibly right?
Attached Files