The problem with decapping.

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Pigslayer posted this 30 December 2012

No matter what press I have owned (RCBS, Lyman, Redding & LEE) I have always had problems with spent primers flying all over & eventually landing on the floor. Well, I recently designated my LEE Challenger press to decapping via a universal decapping die. Yes the little press has a trough to catch the spent primers but as many that actually make it to the trough, make it to the floor. So this morning I made a deflector out of 22 ga. sheet metal that attaches to the original trough screw holes and, yes, deflects the primers to the trough. I'm waiting for the paint to dry on this little attachment so I can put it to use. I'll post some pics soon.

Pat

If someone else had of done to me what I did to myself . . . I'd have killed him. Humility is an asset. Heh - heh.

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TRKakaCatWhisperer posted this 10 January 2013

Pigslayer wrote: What's worse than primers on the floor? ...  

Finding (or NOT finding) a LIVE primer that bounced around and got loaded into a case WITH the powder.

How do I know?

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Pigslayer posted this 10 January 2013

Sonny Edmonds wrote: Pigslayer wrote: What's worse than primers on the floor? Try 1000 .35 cal. gas checks that I knocked off the shelf!! What a boot that was to clean up! That can never happen to me.... (Because I don't have a 35 caliber)  .>

I guess you don't have a copper/aluminum magnet yet. :P Was hoping to order one from you..>

If someone else had of done to me what I did to myself . . . I'd have killed him. Humility is an asset. Heh - heh.

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TRKakaCatWhisperer posted this 09 January 2013

jimkim wrote: If you prime on your press this isn't a good idea. I had a Lee turret press. I turned the ram around so the groove faced the back. I then made a tray with tall sides and a slot for the primers to feed into. It worked very well. When the tray was full I just slid it out the rear and dumped the primers. I gave the press back to the original owner when I bought my classic turret. It has a hollow ram and with the priming arm in place, I'm yet to have a primer hit the floor. It's a different story with the arm removed though.

GOOD idea!

and you can still prime on the press using the adapter gizmo (7/8-14 thread) on top.

Agree,  you can't deprime reprime on the same case in one convoluted stroke.

 

 

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jimkim posted this 09 January 2013

If you prime on your press this isn't a good idea. I had a Lee turret press. I turned the ram around so the groove faced the back. I then made a tray with tall sides and a slot for the primers to feed into. It worked very well. When the tray was full I just slid it out the rear and dumped the primers. I gave the press back to the original owner when I bought my classic turret. It has a hollow ram and with the priming arm in place, I'm yet to have a primer hit the floor. It's a different story with the arm removed though.

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TRKakaCatWhisperer posted this 07 January 2013

My frustration with both the RCBS and the Lyman is that with the groove for the REcapper also used for the spent primer - the spent primers often get inbetween the priming arm and the press. Interesting design problem.

Gunarea - that's the first NFPA approved primer catcher I've seen!

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Notlwonk posted this 07 January 2013

Thanks gunarea, that looks like a good idea.

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gunarea posted this 07 January 2013

Hey Notlwonk    Here is my answer to your question. Don't misunderstand that this catches all the spent primers. It does better than the original, which caught about ninety percent. The red in the tray is a small piece of cloth to dampen the bounce effect. Lowes sells the electrical box for a couple of bucks. Adjusting the decapping die correctly, so the ram slot rises a quarter to three eights of an inch above the cast frame on completion of stroke will greatly help contain debris. This press is a 1966 vintage, purchased new as a birthday present for me. After chasing replacement trays for too many years and running a vacuum daily to pick up primers, a friend of mine made this slick catcher for me. A quarter inch aluminum rod through the primer install boss holds it in place. It has been in steady use for over ten years now.       Now on to the definitive answer for complete containment of discard primers. No,  I am not a Dillon proponent!! That point being made I will continue. The Dillon RL300 has a system that positively will catch each individual decapped primer regardless of make, application, manufacture, type or use. A small folding tray rides directly under the shell carrier specifically for capture. Upon down-stroke the small tray opens and deposits the individual directly into the easily removable aluminum catch pot. Even with the accumulation of several hundred, not one is permitted escape. I personally use this press regularly and can attest to just how well it works. It also makes a pa-tink followed by a light clink noise on every stroke of the handle which I found to be soothing. Of course the RL300 is obsolete along with this amazing system and that my friends is BULLs**t.                                                                                                                           Roy  

Shoot often, Shoot well

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Sonny Edmonds posted this 06 January 2013

Pigslayer wrote: What's worse than primers on the floor? Try 1000 .35 cal. gas checks that I knocked off the shelf!! What a boot that was to clean up! That can never happen to me.... (Because I don't have a 35 caliber)  .>

I guess you don't have a copper/aluminum magnet yet. :P

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TRKakaCatWhisperer posted this 06 January 2013

Pigslayer wrote: What's worse than primers on the floor? Try 1000 .35 cal. gas checks that I knocked off the shelf!! What a boot that was to clean up!

Just like the game: 52-card pickup!

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Pigslayer posted this 06 January 2013

What's worse than primers on the floor? Try 1000 .35 cal. gas checks that I knocked off the shelf!! What a boot that was to clean up!

If someone else had of done to me what I did to myself . . . I'd have killed him. Humility is an asset. Heh - heh.

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Pigslayer posted this 06 January 2013

Might find one on eBay. Keep a sharp eye out.

If someone else had of done to me what I did to myself . . . I'd have killed him. Humility is an asset. Heh - heh.

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Notlwonk posted this 06 January 2013

Any body got an idea for a primer catcher for a Lyman Spartan? Had a Lyman plastic one years ago, I don't recall how long it lasted, not long enough!   

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.22-10-45 posted this 06 January 2013

Years ago, when first starting out, only press I had was an old heavy O frame C-H..primers dropped thru hollow ram..they kept getting jammed up in there & ram lube didn't help any. Bought Forster Co-Ax..much better, but by then, I didn't want any gritty primer fouling in my presses..so have been using home-made punch & die set..really not that slow.

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TRKakaCatWhisperer posted this 06 January 2013

Clod Hopper wrote: I thought that's what floors were designed for, to catch the primers? ;-)

Carpet also works well.

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Clod Hopper posted this 05 January 2013

I thought that's what floors were designed for, to catch the primers? ;-)

Dale M. Lock

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PETE posted this 05 January 2013

Ken,

(Groan!) Your giving people a bad impression of us Iowegians. At least spell ice tea right. It's spelled white lightning.

Pete

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Ken Campbell Iowa posted this 05 January 2013

did youse know that sako makes the Forester ... and the forester helps smokey put out forest(er) fires ...

i wonder if the Forster people help smokey put out Forster fires ?


i gotta quit spikin the ice tea ...

ken

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Sonny Edmonds posted this 05 January 2013

Pigslayer wrote: Ahhhh! A new Forster press! I have checked them out. Too rich for my blood I'm afraid. I just treated myself to a new LEE turret. I'm afraid that that will have to do. LOL Pat Yep, the Forester is not really economical. But after 50 years of reloading, and seeing the end of the tunnel approching, I decided that anything to replace the Herter's Model 3 had to be mighty darned good.

Incidentally, the old C-press spit the primers out at you. It needed a 55 gallon drum as a catcher. LOL!

Not have I been disappointed in the new press either. :cool:

The Model 3 has it's place on the bench as always, but it's relegated to the loathsome task of gas check punching with the Pat Green 2-step POS. It's the only thing heavy enough to take that pounding. .>

Half the fun of reloading is the tinkering. ;)

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Lefty posted this 05 January 2013

My Dillon 550 and my RCBS Rockchucker both put 1/3 of the primers on the floor. I have an old RCBS turret press that employs a primer catcher much like Pat's. It works well but is made very poorly by comparison.

I AM left handed and I find I can use it just fine.:D

Keep the creative ideas coming!

Jim

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Sonny Edmonds posted this 05 January 2013

Not exactly, Pete. My RCBS Auto 4X4 can fill shot bags full in a really short time of fun with my .45 ACP rounds. And it's old nowdays. And if I choose to use it for everything, it never fails to deliver a spent primer to the trash. So there! :crapon:

(But I prefer to decap on the Forester and tumble before running mine around the progressive.) :thumbsup:

You Blue Man Groupies can be annoying. :dude: LOL!

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