How are y'all ventilating your casting areas? I cast in my basement, and do it in front of an open window with a fan drawing the fumes outside. Don't dare cast when there is a threat of rain.
Just wondering what other wonderful ideas y'all have come up with.
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I do my casting in the attic .I got a bathroom exhaust fan and made a wood hood with my brother and use the chimney that can not be use anymore and pipe it to that. with a light also for the booth. You only smell when I use ground corn cobs to flux . It dose not matter the time of year for me. Otherwise I do my smelting outside in the summer time. I use wood to do the smelting.
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I cast on 3rd floor. Have a dormer with a roof window. Natural ventilation - open the window an inch or three and it all flows out. It is a bit of a problem casting when it's raining.
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When my system failed after several years of use, instead of replacing it as originally designed, I bought a brand new range two speed vent hood on Craig's List for very few dollars, and installed it. It exhausts everything outdoors through a set of louvers that open when the vent runs and closes when it stops. High speed when fluxing and low speed when casting. It works beautifully and does NOT exhaust all of the heat (electric wall heater) or cold (wall mounted window air conditioner) in my 20x12 Utility Shed. My casting station is set up ready to go at all times. From a dead start I can be casting bullets in thirty minutes. That is a HUGE matter - sudden impulse to cast leads to almost instant results, year 'round.
FWIW
Dale53
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I think Snuffy has it about right ten years ago and lead hasn't changed any since them. Hi offered some facts about what it actually takes takes to contaminate the air with lead (not fumes from flux).
Lead can be a serious problem if ingested but normal casting isn't likely to be dangerous if eating and smoking is avoided and hand washing afterwards. We should learn what is, and what isn't, dangerous in dealing with lead. Facts, and reasonable caution not irrational fear, works for handling lead, handling firearms, and most other things as well.
John
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I've tried cross-ventilating with fans, with natural breezes, and even with wishful thinking (which was about as effective as the others--they didn't work very well. The best solution is to install a vented (with a two-speed fan) range hood above the casting location. You can pick these up at any home improvement store for a reasonable price--then you need to invest in some pipe or tubing of suitable diameter to lead the fumes outside. This works very well. It can also be helpful to extend the "skirt" of the hood downward (so it can contain a greater volume of fumes when fluxing) with duct tape--or with a strip of aluminum sheet attached with pop rivets if you're ambitious.
Forget all the stuff about breezes, the fan in the window, and even casting outside (which works only about 50% of the time). Use these methods and you'll still get sick headaches. Do your health a favor and install a vent hood!
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I cast on a covered patio on our picnic table, Have a 1/4" plywood clamped to table, cut with 1" overhang. Put another full sheet under the table and where I sit to cast. Have a 16" fan oscillating to blow the fumes out away from me and the house.
My leads levels are low and stable.
I cast in one set of clothes. Overalls, shirt, socks, hat . Leave hanging in the garage, wash after 3-4 casting sessions. Fresh rubber gloves every time. Wipe off hat, shoes with clean rag soaked in acetone. Don't ask why the acetone, It's what my Dad used.
Long time Caster/Reloader, Getting back into it after almost 10yrs. Life Member NRA 40+yrs, Life S.A.S.S. #375. Does this mean a description of me as a fumble-fingered knuckle-draggin' baboon. I also drool in my sleep. I firmly believe that true happiness is a warm gun. Did I mention how much I HATE auto-correct on this blasted tablet.
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Don't they call these zombie threads?
I've been wondering about lead exposure. A couple years ago I got tested. It was OK, but it wasn't low, either. Anymore, I try to cast outside. That precludes me from having a dedicated casting station but I can set-up and tear down this one in no time.
In the winter I set it up in the garage with the door open.
What about handling lead? After casting I wash my hands with Goop. But does it get on your clothes from the fumes?
HERE'S MY MAIN QUESTION: Other than your hands - does lead leave invisible deposits from the fumes and smoke? Are your clothes contaminated after a casting session? Is the area AROUND your work place contaminated? I try to be careful.
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I have only been married for three years, five months, eight days, and 57 min so I can still remember the days when I was single. Not that I am counting or anything....>
Life was a lot simpler back then... I had a lot more $ than I do now too...
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My wife would have my head on a platter if I tried to cast in the house.
She washes the door handle after I come in from the shop even. If I am not heading for the sink to wash my hands after coming in the door she tells me to go wash my hands.
Can't imagine fluxing in the house.... Which is precisely why I stay single!;) No criticism of anybody that has to keep peace in a marriage, but having been married, I know how it goes.
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My wife would have my head on a platter if I tried to cast in the house.
She washes the door handle after I come in from the shop even. If I am not heading for the sink to wash my hands after coming in the door she tells me to go wash my hands.
Can't imagine fluxing in the house....
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I cast in my loading room, which is a spare bedroom. I take no special precautions for ventilation. If I do any casting in the summer when I can have widows open, I open both corner windows so any wind can blow through. Most of my casting is done in winter, in Wisconsin that means no vents, or it costs buccu bucks to heat. So there's no venting in the winter.
I had my blood levels done a year ago, it was 5.0, no concern. I just had another test monday, we'll see what that says.
I don't mind the smell of the smoke produced by fluxing. It does not contain any lead, so I ignore it. As for lead fumes, they're minimal at normal casting temps. Few lead pots can raise the temp above 1200 degrees, where lead begins to fume a lot. Under that temp, there are fumes, but what there are is a thin layer directly on top of the lead. Because it's heavy, it stays nailed to the molten surface. If the surface of the lead is very near the top of the pot, it can spill out, but it is very difficult to become airborne.
Normal precautions of not eating, smoking or drinking while casting prevent ingestion of lead. Then a thorough washing of the hands afterward gets rid of the rest.
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I cast in the garage with the door open about 12 inches. I then turn on two fans to push out the lead fumes. Also to help keep me cool in the summer. Casting at 115 degrees takes a little out of me but it's better than paying prices for others to cast for me.
Me too now but in Flagstaff with two feet of snow on the ground this gets COLD! Two businesses in town yesterday had their roofs fall in under the weight of the snow and ice. Yesterday we got a rain/snow storm. That weighed more than anything I've seen in years.
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I cast in the garage with the door open about 12 inches. I then turn on two fans to push out the lead fumes. Also to help keep me cool in the summer. Casting at 115 degrees takes a little out of me but it's better than paying prices for others to cast for me.
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Thanks for the heads up on that!!! Your Post should be moved to where everyone can see it.
I have been shooting my 8mm Mauser with IMR 4198 loads that don't seal the bore and give a good amount of blow back. I ran into the same issue, the heavier charges sealed the bore but shot poorly.
Thanks again for posting that...
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It never occurred to me that shooting that gun would be any health risk. But I gave up bullet casting for I think three months. Avoided any lead exposure and my blood lead level still went up significantly. So I started looking for another reason. Took me a while to think about that rifle.
BUT once I stopped shooting it my blood lead level dropped like a brick. It had to be that gun.
I would like to try it again BUT I don't want another elevated blood level. It was right at the point where it could have gotten ugly. A value 30 or less you can piss away, literally. Much over 30 and you are going to need chemical treatment. That does not sound like fun.
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klw,
Thanks for the info on 'ventilation' when it has to do with the chamber. I too have shot mild loads that didn't seal the neck. Good advice to some others who may be shooting such loads. I had such a load in my 308win using H322.
Have you tried annealing the necks? I don't know what caliber your Mauser is, but I'd think IMR4198 would be a good choice for a powder to seal the chamber. In the 30-06 it seems 21grs is a good choice. I'd think 18-19gr starting weight will work in the 7mm, 7.65mm, and the 8mm going up gradually from there. Water dropped wheel weights or a 50/50 mix of WW/Linotype should hold up to the 4198 velocity.
Hope you give your Mauser another chance. If you have 2nd thoughts, you could bring one of those little battery powdered desk fans with you to the range. If you shoot off the bench you can have the fan blowing in a direction to blow any gas venting away from your face..............Dan
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A very nice condition, early Mauser Model 1891. Really beautiful gun.
The problem was that if you loaded it up so that the breech sealed properly the accuracy was absolutely horrible. If you downloaded it to where the accuracy was good the breech didn't seal. Lots of obvious blowback on the brass and you could literally feel the crude hitting you in the face.
By the time I got good accuracy I was shooting a REALLY mild load so the blowback didn't bother me any. And I never thought that it could raise my blood lead levels but it could.
This is such a nice rifle I'd like to work with it again BUT I don't want a rise in my blood lead levels so I probably will not.
Maybe I'll go back to jacketed bullets.
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What brand caliber and type of gun are we talking about here?
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I never paid any attention to ventilation until my blood lead level went up. I was having that check once every couple of years and one day I had an elevated blood lead level. I stopped all my casting, securely boxed up all my lead and waited several months to see if it would drop. It went up.
To make a long story short I tracked the problem to a gun I was shooting. Stopped shooting it and the lead level dropped like a brick.
Now I have a fan right behind my furnace blowing the fumes out an open window. That gets cold in the winter but it works. My lead level has stayed down. And I don't shoot that one gun anymore.
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I use the range hood like ZAP has pictured here. I Opted for the 7” diam duct instead of the 3 1/4X10 that he is using. Mine vents striaght up into the rafters of my shop. Eventually I will climb up there and vent it out of the roof.
The draft created from the heat going out the pipe is enough to pull all the smoke out without the fan even on! I need to install something to block the pipe for when it is not in use now... I might need the fan in the summer but for now it works great without it on.
$99 for the hood and 7$ for the ducting at HD. The hood has a max 190 CFM Rating.
I used to use a 4” forced hot air duct with a 6X14?? “hood” of sorts and a “booster” fan but it didn't work all that great. The Range hood is the way to go!!
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