Need a 9mm luger bullet

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R. Dupraz posted this 22 October 2017

 Ruger LC9s Pro

500 + rounds of factory and reloads, Jacketed, plated, round nose and hollow point, three different weights, with seven different brands of once fired 9mm brass and two different breeds of factory so far without a hiccup. Including a few WWC Nato. Save for two  failure to chamber that were my fault. Trying to bend the bell back with a roll crimp die. Taper crimp die will be coming. And, shoots to the sights.

Didn't intend to shoot cast but have changed my mind. Looking for a 9mm PB cast bullet mold design that will work and shoots well for general practice on silhouette combat type targets only. Preferably bevel base.  I intend to tumble lube. Least amount of fiddling  around. Don't have time for that any more. 

Throat measures a strong .358" via a small hole gauge. Looking at some NOE designs.

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R. Dupraz posted this 24 October 2017

BRITE-SITE TRITIUM FIBER/OPTIC (GREEN FRONT/GREEN REAR)

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RicinYakima posted this 25 October 2017

The problem with bevel base bullets is that you have to have the lube and sizer adjusted correctly. Plus you have to have the proper height of nose punch.  Otherwise the lube leaks under the base and makes a mess.

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R. Dupraz posted this 02 November 2017

Ruger LC9s Pro

Top group -- 15 yds. standing two handed unsupported, 10 shots, final 10 of 40 total, no cleaning, no leading, High shot last round,

                      relaxed grip, shifted in recoil. #8 was aiming point. 

                      Lee 356-120-TC, 

                      Sized -- .3575"

                     4.4 grns. unique

                    

 

Bottom group -- 10 yds. BR, over bags, 15 shots, no clean, no leading.

                       Lee 358-125-RF

                       Sized - .3575",

                       4.4 gns. unique

                      center hold

Two separate targets, one over the other in order to get both in one photo, Center shot out of top one.

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GP Idaho posted this 22 October 2017

Richard;  I'm a big fan of the Noe moulds also.  That being said I also own a Lee six cavity mould that is a favorite.  The 356-120-TC  Mine drops bullets at .358 with COWW This can be ordered with a standard lube groove or the tumble lube version.These six cavity moulds rain a lot of bullets in a hurry and are under $40. Gp

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frnkeore posted this 22 October 2017

This is a 9mm mold that I designed for NOE. It is designed to fit the SAAMI. 9mm Luger throat, perfectly. It cast large, as that was what was requested, at the time and has a beveled base.

NOE bullet

It's a heavier bullet but, can be had with a hollow point nose, to reduce weight. They are called RG molds and weight 147 gr.

Frank

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Ken T posted this 22 October 2017

I like the old Lyman 356402 mould.It works well in P08's.It is flat base though.The only bevel base mould I have is the Lyman 356637 HP.I bought it is use in a .38 Super.I have not tried in a P08 yet.I don't own any modern 9mm pistols at the moment.

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David Reiss posted this 22 October 2017

Both the Lyman 356402 and the Lee 356-115-TC are great bullets. They feed in all my nines flawlessly and are pretty accurate. Great practice bullets.

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Ed Harris posted this 22 October 2017

I've been using the Accurate 35-120H with great results in the .380 ACP.  Others use it in the 9mm with good results.

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j35nut posted this 23 October 2017

Hi I don;t have a mold recommendation for you, but wanted to ask you what sights are those on your pistol?

--------J

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R. Dupraz posted this 23 October 2017

j35nut:

 

Three dot fiber optic. My first experience with these. After using these sights, I am definitely convinced that these were invented solely for us old farts who can't see irons any more. Even after having the lenses replaced in the eyes. I have had handguns over the years with the three white dot sights but they don't even compare with these. All you have to do is to line up the three easily seen bright sharp little "LED's"

I am a believer. 

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lotech posted this 23 October 2017

I've tried many cast designs in several 9mm pistols over the last thirty years. The most accurate bullet I've found so far is cast from an obsolete Lyman .38 Special mould, #358212. I don't have any on hand right now that are unsized, but as-cast diameter using WW alloy is either .359" or .360". Cartridges so loaded feed reliably in the three 9mms I have.

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R. Dupraz posted this 23 October 2017

Thanks for all the replies. The one thing that was keeping me from trying cast bullets in that 9 mm are all the horror stories about leading when shooting cast in the 9mm that have been posted on the net.

But, think I'll try it anyway. Find a mold that casts big enough and size to throat dia, of .358" for starters.  

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Ken T posted this 23 October 2017

I have a four cavity Lyman 358212 i picked up used.I haven't tried it yet but it would excellent for the 9mm and the .38 Super.I bought it for the .38 Super.

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frnkeore posted this 23 October 2017

I addressed the leading issue on my design by making the lube groove wider and by making the bevel to a minimum size. Most of the bevel will iron out when the bullet fully engraves.

Frank

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6thtexas posted this 23 October 2017

I have been using the NOE 135FP in both a CZ85 and S&W 3914 with very good results.  The bullet also makes a great lightweight for the .38 Special as well.  I size them .358 and they work in everything.  I also use the Accurate 35-122T in the 9mm though most of these wind up in the .380s

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BigMan54 posted this 24 October 2017

I grew up shooting the LYMAN #356402 in P-08,P-38 & S&W 39. It feeds in every "modern" pistol I've tried it in. That said I've been shooting the LEE  #356-125-2R cast out of a 6cav, sized .357 in a GLOCK, P-4, P-1 & B-92FS for the past year without a problem of any kind. Hate bevel base bullets, but really interested in hearing about those sights.

Long time Caster/Reloader, Getting back into it after almost 10yrs. Life Member NRA 40+yrs, Life S.A.S.S. #375. Does this mean a description of me as a fumble-fingered knuckle-draggin' baboon. I also drool in my sleep. I firmly believe that true happiness is a warm gun. Did I mention how much I HATE auto-correct on this blasted tablet.

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John Alexander posted this 24 October 2017

BigMan,

What is it you hate about bevel base bullets.  Thinking of buying one of these new self loading pistols.

John

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David Reiss posted this 24 October 2017

Bevel base bullets are really nice when loading on a progressive press, helping to speed up the process. Loading them on a single or turret press they don't give you much of an advantage. However they do not lead when properly sized and I have never experienced any accuracy issues. I would not hesitate using a bevel base either way, if the mold was available. 

In fact I own about 15 various 9mm autos (Glock, S&W, Taurus, Springfield, Star, Browning, Astra, Beretta, Rock Island, Canik, EAA)  and bullet selection is seldom an issue. Most autos now days are very forgiving when it comes to ammo, all being very reliable and accuracy at defensive ranges more than acceptable. 

I have also used bevel base design CBs in .45 acp, .40 S&W, 10 mm and .380 acp with no issues. Sized to throat diameter of WW alloy will give no leading with the shallow rifling on most autos.  

David Reiss - NRA Life Member & PSC Range Member Retired Police Firearms Instructor/Armorer
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j35nut posted this 25 October 2017

I see said the blind man, thanks------J

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David Reiss posted this 25 October 2017

To get around the bb lube issue, just use LA. It works well for 9mm velocities. 

David Reiss - NRA Life Member & PSC Range Member Retired Police Firearms Instructor/Armorer
-Services: Wars Fought, Uprisings Quelled, Bars Emptied, Revolutions Started, Tigers Tamed, Assassinations Plotted, Women Seduced, Governments Run, Gun Appraisals, Lost Treasure Found.
- Also deal in: Land, Banjos, Nails, Firearms, Manure, Fly Swatters, Used Cars, Whisky, Racing Forms, Rare Antiquities, Lead, Used Keyboard Keys, Good Dogs, Pith Helmets & Zulu Headdresses. .

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